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  • The Trade Deadline Should Force a Choice Between Two Young Hitters for Cubs


    Matt Trueblood

    After going 11-5 in the decisive space between the All-Star break and July 31, the Cubs no longer have a tough decision in whether to buy or sell. Now, they face a more daunting, complicated one, with the same deadline on it.

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    A year and a half ago, it felt very much as though the Cubs might need to choose between Nico Hoerner and Nick Madrigal. One would be their second baseman of the future, but the other would struggle to find any long-term home, and might need to be jettisoned in order to build a functional roster. Not since the 1990s have teams' pitching usage choices allowed for a pure backup second baseman, after all.

    Then, the 2022 season happened. Madrigal endured frustration and injury, and although he finished strong, he made no compelling case for himself as a starting regular in the majors. Yet, Hoerner left the door open, by proving that he had the capacity to acquit himself at shortstop, in addition to hitting enough to bat near the top of the order on a credible team. That's why Madrigal was able to get a meaningful September audition, in which he looked good, and in turn, that's why he stuck with the Cubs even after the team added Dansby Swanson over the winter. Because Hoerner could be the backup shortstop from his position at second, Madrigal could be a bench player even while largely limited to second base.

    Obviously, much has changed even since then. Madrigal has, when healthy, had a much better 2023, especially over the last two months. That's the span during which, because of Patrick Wisdom's injuries and inconsistency, Madrigal has become the team's apparent top choice to play third base. It wouldn't have occurred to anyone to put the diminutive Madrigal at third base if exigency hadn't demanded it, but (after a few rocky showings at the start) he's demonstrated above-average ability at that spot. He's also batting .323/.397/.462 since he took over this role on June 9, although that sample is fewer than 80 plate appearances, because he missed most of a month with a hamstring strain.

    The rub lies in the fact that Madrigal seems (and certainly believes, based on his comments earlier this year during a sojourn in Iowa) to need to be in the lineup almost daily in order to stay in the rhythm necessary to have success with his approach and skill set--to wit, his lack of any power of which to speak. A player who can only play well if they play very often puts more pressure on themselves and the team, because they have to be allotted a daily spot in a way that modern rosters usually do only for stars. Worse, Madrigal is not durable, so to build the best version of this team around him at third base requires having a second, competent third baseman on hand who can be more successful in limited playing time.

    Here we reach the new dilemma facing the organization. The Cubs no longer need to choose between Madrigal and Hoerner; that would now be a cruelly easy choice. Instead, they need to choose between Madrigal and Christopher Morel. It's not a direct position battle, per se, because the Cubs have proven (and Morel has affirmed, with his play when called upon in semi-emergencies) that Morel is not a third baseman in their eyes. Still, his recent production has forced them to put him in the lineup nearly every day. Often, he's the designated hitter. 

    At this point, because Trey Mancini's contract is a hurdle in dealing with first base or in adding high-salary players at this deadline, third base and DH are the two places where the team can plausibly upgrade the lineup. That means moving on from either Morel (despite his raw production, he's been so up-and-down, and his lack of a position hurts the team's modularity and flexibility) or Madrigal (whose success, on both sides of the ledger, seems so fragile, and who could get hurt again at any moment). They could trade for some slightly better version of Wisdom and banish the current iteration, but if both Morel and Madrigal have to play every day, what would that really achieve?

    For the balance of this season, it might work to have Morel and Madrigal continue in their roles. However, this deadline is an opportunity to answer a couple of medium-term questions at low cost, or even at a profit, without hurting the 2023 club's chances. To miss that window would be a failure. Thus, the front office has to consider trading one of the two, as part of a maneuver in which they acquire some veteran bat and a controllable pitcher to bolster the staff.

    Choosing between these two is like choosing between apples and garlic. They're so different, and they offer such different sets of possible rewards and challenges, that it feels strange to set them in rivalry with one another. If the Cubs are going to make a decisive, organization-building, winning move at this deadline, though, it will probably have to involve knowing which of these two is part of their long-term plans.

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    28 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

    Put Madrigal in the Bednar trade. 

    That's a fantastic idea... he's a decent ML player, which the Pirates need, and somewhat superfluous to the Cubs' lineup needs since they need power and the only position available to Madrigal is 3B.  

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    14 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

    They're backup infielders. You close your eyes and play eenie meanie minie moe.

    I'm fairly sympathetic to your line of thinking from the Bednar thread, but you're either not realizing that you need to try harder on this one or you had so much fun with the Bednar thread you're dangling this as bait like a message board Colin Robinson.

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    4 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

    I'm fairly sympathetic to your line of thinking from the Bednar thread, but you're either not realizing that you need to try harder on this one or you had so much fun with the Bednar thread you're dangling this as bait like a message board Colin Robinson.

    A little bit that doesn't mean it's not also true.

    I'm assuming this means I'm supposed to really like one or the other but I'm not even sure which.

    Morel has minimal value if he can't maintain the HR pace he's had in the majors through 600 PAs, which I suspect he can't.

    Madrigal is like the platonic ideal of a middle infielder who can just barely hit and field enough that he definitely belongs on an MLB roster in his prime but I don't think you're ever happy starting him. 

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    I didn't like the Madrigal acquisition and I've been biased and extra critical of him because of that, but when he is healthy and in a groove at the plate he does have potential to be decently valuable. He needs to keep up the doubles, but at any rate, he has been really good since his return. That's probably not going to continue but I can see a 300/350/400 hitter in there. He can work as a super infielder.

     

    They need to just DFA Mancini and let Mervis figure it out. 

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    2 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

    A little bit that doesn't mean it's not also true.

    I'm assuming this means I'm supposed to really like one or the other but I'm not even sure which.

    Morel has minimal value if he can't maintain the HR pace he's had in the majors through 600 PAs, which I suspect he can't.

    Madrigal is like the platonic ideal of a middle infielder who can just barely hit and field enough that he definitely belongs on an MLB roster in his prime but I don't think you're ever happy starting him. 

    Oh, it’s *definitely* not the case that I expect anyone to think one is a star, least of all a particular one. I think there’s a good chance one of them is a helpful regular, and I think the Cubs need to figure out which one and act decisively, and I think that’s hard because they’re out of time and their information is deeply imperfect. So. 🤷🏼‍♂️.

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    10 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

    A little bit that doesn't mean it's not also true.

    I'm assuming this means I'm supposed to really like one or the other but I'm not even sure which.

    Morel has minimal value if he can't maintain the HR pace he's had in the majors through 600 PAs, which I suspect he can't.

    Madrigal is like the platonic ideal of a middle infielder who can just barely hit and field enough that he definitely belongs on an MLB roster in his prime but I don't think you're ever happy starting him. 

    I'm pretty sure there's not a single prospect or player on the big league team that you like, because all you do is act like everyone of them is horsefeathers. 

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    Just now, Tryptamine said:

    I'm pretty sure there's not a single prospect or player on the big league team that you like, because all you do is act like everyone of them is horsefeathers. 

    I like PCA.

    Most prospects are going to fail and most MLB players are mid or worse by MLB standards 

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    2 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

    I like PCA.

    Most prospects are going to fail and most MLB players are mid or worse by MLB standards 

    As mean as this sounds, “fails” is mostly against cartoon expectations anyway (Morel almost sliced himself out of playing any pro baseball at all in Rk ball), this is the way to being the org that wins

     

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