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    The Cubs Lineup Isn’t Good Enough to Go All-In

    Go past WAR accumulation. Is the lineup as good as it needs to be to truly contend?

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    There is a narrative about the Cubs position players that doesn’t seem to jibe with reality. Common Cubs fan knowledge states that this is an elite position-player group. And yes, when you look at WAR, the Cubs look great. The defense truly is elite. But they simply don’t have the offensive talent—or at least the demonstrated capacity for present production—to justify a heavy investment in this season. 

    Historically, teams need at least one elite bat to contend. Pete Crow-Armstrong has been that, and is a legitimate MVP candidate. But the rest of the lineup features only one player with a 120 wRC+. That’s simply not enough offense—not enough high-end hitting talent—to reach their postseason goal.

    Other contenders this year have more players who have reached this stat, which basically means the player is 20 percent better than a league-average hitter. The Dodgers have six; the Brewers have eight; and the Rays four. Even more, the Dodgers feature a certain two-way legend with a lofty 162, and Junior Caminero in Tampa is over 150. There are reasons why these teams come through more often and win at a higher rate. They simply have more offensive talent.

    Last year was more of the same. Toronto and Seattle each had seven players exceed this mark. The Brewers and Phillies checked in with four. The trend is established; the Cubs' hitting doesn’t measure up to recent contenders.

    Other champions with 85-95 wins (the range in which the Cubs are likely to fall) also had several more bats over a 120 wRC+. The 2021 Braves and 2019 Nationals, both Wild Card entrants, each had five players exceed the mark. Last year’s Dodgers had five, and of course, Ohtani put up a 172. The 2015 Royals are often held up as an example of a champion without a superstar, but they had seven players clear the 120 mark. High-end hitting is essential for October success, and the Cubs are not performing at that level.

    All of this has to be considered in the context of the broader roster, of course. Entering Sunday, the Cubs led the majors in non-pitcher Wins Above Average (WAA), according to Baseball Reference, at 10.3. Crow-Armstrong has accounted for 5.0 of that himself, though, and as we know, much of the other value comes from the great defense of Michael Busch, Nico Hoerner, Alex Bregman, Dansby Swanson, and Ian Happ. More importantly, their pitchers have dug a hole the position players have had to climb out of. They've been worth -5.6 WAA. In short, take away Crow-Armstrong, and the roster as a whole is underwater, at -0.3 WAA. With the three best pitchers the team has had active at any point this season (Cade Horton, Daniel Palencia and Ben Brown) all on the injured list indefinitely or out for the year, it's unlikely that they'll turn that around with their current personnel. 

    There is no realistic way the Cubs can fill their holes at starting pitcher, the bullpen, and add a true middle-of-the-order bat. Balancing the roster by deepening the lineup would be massively costly. Given this reality, it doesn't make sense to gut the farm for a one-time effort. 

    Bregman will continue to hit in the middle of the order, because projections say he’s the most likely to produce numbers at that spot. Despite many online clamoring for a lineup change, there really isn’t a move to be made that would push them ahead of Milwaukee or the Dodgers. The best course of action is hoping the highest-paid players on the team (Bregman and Swanson) return to their normal levels of production—not to mention Hoerner and Happ. 

    Jed Hoyer was lauded for his efforts to build a complete roster in the offseason, eschewing waiting for a deadline addition. That team hasn't materialized, and the underperformers in the offense are a reason why. Unless the highly-paid bats come to the grill and start frying some tasty stats, the Cubs should just let it ride. 

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    squally1313

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, Brian Kelder said:

    I think my main point of them not having enough top end talent still is a good one

    The Cubs, vis a vis the Brewers, have:

    • More runs
    • More home runs
    • A better walk rate
    • A better on base percentage
    • A better slugging percentage
    • A better wOBA
    • A better xwOBA
    • A better wRC
    • A vastly superior defense, which I know was not the thrust of your article
    Brian Kelder

    Posted

    44 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

    But surely you understand how insane it is to include players with a single digit amount of at bats in this metric that you largely just made up to support your narrative that the third to fifth best offensive team in baseball actually isn't good. Or do you think we should get credit for Justin Dean and James Triantos

    Fair

    Bobson Dugnutt

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Brian Kelder said:

    Fair, but note that I wrote this on Friday, so the stats obviously changed

    Kinda pokes a hole in your entire premise when 8 PAs can swing someone 6 points and the cubs have three guys two points away from your arbitrary cutoff.

    Brian Kelder

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, Bobson Dugnutt said:

    Kinda pokes a hole in your entire premise when 8 PAs can swing someone 6 points and the cubs have three guys two points away from your arbitrary cutoff.

    Might undercut the metric more! 

    Brian Kelder

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

    Finding it real hard to take you seriously.  The farm has 4 guys who have appeared in top 100 lists with Rojas, Kepley, Hartshorn and Wiggins along with a guy in Ayers who might hit some end of season lists.  This is not the bottom 10 farm it was to start the year.

    I am decidedly not a prospect guy to be fair

    mul21

    Posted

    33 minutes ago, Brian Kelder said:

    I am decidedly not a prospect guy to be fair

    If that's the case, seems odd to definitively declare they don't have the prospect capital to make the necessary moves.

    Bobson Dugnutt

    Posted

    42 minutes ago, Brian Kelder said:

    Might undercut the metric more! 

    No, it doesn’t do that.

    CaliforniaRaisin

    Posted

    18 hours ago, Named After Maddux said:

    It’s a pretty silly level of cherry picking when the Cubs are also 3rd in Team wRC+ at 110. Sure the Cubs look great on position player WAR because of defense but the offense looks just fine. 
    It’s obviously not perfect, but come on. There’s plenty of concerns about the team overall. The injuries on the pitching side makes it tricky to address all the holes, but the offense is good enough to justify using resources as the Cubs sit with the sixth best record in baseball and with a clear WC position. 

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    Arlen

    Posted

    14 hours ago, Brian Kelder said:

    To me, the issue is that they don’t have a better talent to hit in the middle of the order. 

    Seems to me, that is because teams front-end the power hitters in very recent times.

    Arlen

    Posted (edited)

    14 hours ago, Brian Kelder said:

    To be fair I never said I wanted a Bregman signing!

    Here's to Bregman playing as if he were Santo without diabetes. We're Cubs fans, so hope springs and sprints.

    Edited by Arlen
    Outshined_One

    Posted

    22 hours ago, Brian Kelder said:

    I am decidedly not a prospect guy to be fair

    NSBB has some of the best Cubs prospecturbation on the internet, even if you were to ignore the front page articles that get posted regarding the farm.  It's worth reading the daily threads and following along if you're going to be posting articles involving things like the Cubs' trade capital or their future needs at various positions.

    squally1313

    Posted

    Cubs now up to 6 guys with a wRC at 120 or above. Dodgers have 5. Maybe they'll be sellers?

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    Brian Kelder

    Posted

    3 hours ago, squally1313 said:

    Cubs now up to 6 guys with a wRC at 120 or above. Dodgers have 5. Maybe they'll be sellers?

    I’ll own that one. Might need to write an update

    Brian Kelder

    Posted

    3 hours ago, squally1313 said:

    Cubs now up to 6 guys with a wRC at 120 or above. Dodgers have 5. Maybe they'll be sellers?

    Wait. No. You’re wrong they just have two. Four over 100

    Bobson Dugnutt

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Brian Kelder said:

    Wait. No. You’re wrong they just have two. Four over 100

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