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    Sources: Chicago Cubs, Kansas City Royals Have Discussed Seth Lugo Trade

    Though Jed Hoyer has repeatedly stressed the difficulty of making June trades in the modern major leagues, the team made "major progress" toward a move this week, according to one source.

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    The Chicago Cubs and the Kansas City Royals had discussions this week about a trade that could send right-handed starter Seth Lugo to the North Siders, sources familiar with the negotiations said. Right now, the Royals aren't ready to become sellers, and GM J.J. Picollo went on a public campaign this week to downplay rumors that the team is moving into that mode. However, even Picollo admitted that it's possible his team could land in a situation in which they'd be forced to consider selling, and that seems right around the corner now.

    With an utterly impotent offense, Kansas City is plummeting in the American League standings. They lost their fifth game in a row Thursday night, to hit the halfway point of their season on pace for 76 wins. Lugo, 35, is the player who would most obviously hit the trading block if the team does pivot in that direction. He's under contract for the balance of this year, on a salary of $15 million, and he has a player option for 2026 at the same price—but he seems almost certain to decline that, barring a catastrophic injury between now and the start of November. In effect, then, he's an impending free agent, and though the Royals could extend him a qualifying offer after he declines his option this fall, they could certainly get more than the value of an eventual compensatory draft pick by trading him this summer.

    Last season, Lugo led the majors in starts (33) and the AL in batters faced (836). He won't match that feat this year, after a sprained finger on his pitching hand cost him the second half of May, but he's established himself as one of the most durable and consistent starters in baseball. He didn't become a full-time starter until 2023, at age 33, but since he did so (first with the Padres, now with the Royals), he's made 73 starts; averaged almost exactly six innings per start; and posted a 3.18 ERA. He doesn't rack up strikeouts the way some younger, harder-throwing alternatives might, but he limits walks and keeps the ball in the park very well. Depending on whom you ask, he throws eight, nine or 10 different pitches.

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    Lugo certainly cuts the figure of a pitcher in whom the Cubs would have interest, and according to sources familiar with the Royals' thinking, the Chicago farm system contains multiple players in whom Kansas City has long had interest. Hoyer and company would be loath to surrender any of the team's top few prospects in exchange for Lugo, though—not only because of his age and the $15 million they'd owe him if he blew out his elbow or shoulder next week, but because they believe they have multiple needs to fill. Lugo would check just one box on their list, and is likely to become a free agent this fall.

    Therefore, if the Royals want (say) Jefferson Rojas or Owen Caissie as part of a package in exchange for Lugo, the Cubs might seek to do some one-stop shopping. Sources said the Cubs have also shown interest in infielder Jonathan India (who has played 20 games at third base this year, after spending his whole career at the keystone through 2024) and reliever Carlos Estévez, whom the Royals signed to a two-year deal this winter. Neither player is at the top of the Cubs' wishlist for the roles they would fill, but India and Estévez each have significant salaries, which could keep their acquisition cost down. They would also each come with team control for 2026.

    The sweet spot could be a deal centered on Lugo and struggling Cubs outfield prospect Kevin Alcántara. The Cubs would have to include a strong second piece, though, sources said, and that could turn out to be a problem. Quickly, the team will run into hurdles this summer, because several of their key prospects are having rough seasons or are functionally untradeable. Alcántara, for instance, has such impressive tools that he nearly made the Opening Day roster and has been ranked inside the top 30 prospects in baseball by some outlets, but he's scuffling with Triple-A Iowa this year. In fact, he's getting worse each month, including slugging an anemic .328 in June. Ben Brown has been mentioned in talks between the teams, but like Alcántara, Brown has shown his warts this season and can't command a player like Lugo on his own.

    The Cubs still have irons in many fires. In addition to reports that they've talked to the Pittsburgh Pirates about both Mitch Keller and David Bednar (which sources confirmed had taken place, but characterized as less active than the team's discussions with Kansas City as of the middle of this week), they're laying in wait to see what the Diamondbacks and Rangers each decide to do. The Twins are likely to trade Chris Paddack next month, a source said, and the Cubs would make sense as suitors for Paddack, too. Michael Soroka of the Nationals will be available, and is a dark-horse candidate to be an impactful starter in a new home down the stretch. Less desirable (but important, in that they give a sense of the floor the team might try to establish if they're unable to raise their ceiling) are targets like Tomoyuki Sugano and Aaron Civale

    Kansas City loses little (and could gain much) by waiting out the market, even as they fall out of contention. The level of demand for pitching only moves in one direction as the trade deadline approaches. It will rise, and therefore, so will the prices on reliable, playoff-caliber starters. That's why the Cubs tried to get a deal done this week, and are believed to have standing offers out on at least two different starters as of Thursday night. They have neither the willingness nor the ability to simply push in an extra chip and force a deal across the finish line, however. For now, Lugo and the Cubs are a sensible fit, and talks remain active—but Hoyer is not close to checking off even the first item on his to-do list.

     

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    Jason Ross

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    I will be very disappointed both in the Cubs and Hoyer if the "sweet spot" on Lugo was anywhere near Kevin Alcantara to begin with, regardless of other pieces. Alcantara is showing some red flags certainly, but is three months removed from being a pretty universal-top-75 type. I'm inclined to believe that there's some help and potential fixing that could happen as it pertains to his issues on non-fastballs. There's enough age there that I don't think we're at a nuclear option yet. Or at least, hope.

    On the flip side, Lugo's top-line looks good, but the processes and under-the-hood stuff are horrible. He's taken major steps back on chase, whiff, and contact quality against from where he was in 2024. Couple in the age and the potential to be stuck with Lugo next year if the processes eventually match the top-line (as in, he regresses to those processes) the Cubs should be able to find a far cheaper option who won't come with the potential for a 2026 grenade than to have to trade a down-year Alcantara. 

    He did succeed in 2023 with similarly wonky Statcast data, but it's hard to think that it's very repeatable. Still the xData liked him more then, too.

    If he was coming from an organization who hasn't had success recently in pitching, I'd maybe buy that you could find some fix/help, but considering the progress of pitchers like Ragans and Bubic, it isn't like the Royals are currently an org who's incapable of squeezing some value out of starters like maybe we would have viewed them four years ago.

    Last year Martin Perez, at age 33 went for an 18 year old lottery ticket. Perez was not as good on the top-line, but his processes painted a similar picture. Lugo's got history to where you can argue his value is more because of it, but I cannot see the massive leap-and-bound that it would take to get to Alcantara. 

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    gflore34

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    I don't see how Lugo shouldn't command anything more than a lottery ticket.  He doesn't move the needle much for the Cubs, he may be more reliable than say, a Ben Brown, and perhaps, slightly better than Rea.  Jed can and should do much better.

    Bertz

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    Yeah Lugo's basically in the same situation as Stroman a few years back:

    -  The peripherals make it clear he's having a pretty good year rather than the stellar one his ERA would imply

    - Even at his best his durability/finesse profile doesn't really fit the archetype teams prefer in playoff starters

    - The player option acts as a poison pill to shred his value

    Even if you want to be bearish on guys like Alcantara or Brown, Lugo's value is so nominal I'd be shocked if they don't far outstrip him.

    We Got The Whole 9

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    Jed and Craig love competence. They might try to swing a bigger trade later but if they can get a competent starter, who will take the bump when his spot comes up and give them a chance at a QS, that's what they care about. He throws strikes and doesn't kill you with gophers. He shouldn't cost much.

     

    Personally I think the team prefers guys to avoid barrels more than bats. They don't seem too concerned with having a staff of power pitchers but rather they rely on contact suppression and defense. 

     

    Hey, it worked before!



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