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I cannot believe the Cubs are going to insult all of their intelligent fans by making no moves before tonight's game. Someone needs to pay with their job for the embarrassment of the last two nights. If either Perez or Patterson start this game it is a travesty. Patterson should not see the light of day again this season. Anybody else stay up late and see his last at-bat last night? Couldn't wait to make an out and have the game end.

 

If the same lineup is trotted out there tonight it proves not only that the Cubs stink but that they are not attempting to get better. Thise Cub fans who actually care about winning deserve much better.

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I cannot believe the Cubs are going to insult all of their intelligent fans by making no moves before tonight's game. Someone needs to pay with their job for the embarrassment of the last two nights. If either Perez or Patterson start this game it is a travesty. Patterson should not see the light of day again this season. Anybody else stay up late and see his last at-bat last night? Couldn't wait to make an out and have the game end.

 

If the same lineup is trotted out there tonight it proves not only that the Cubs stink but that they are not attempting to get better. Thise Cub fans who actually care about winning deserve much better.

 

 

Perez at leadoff is a problem. Perez batting 8th is a good idea.

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I cannot believe the Cubs are going to insult all of their intelligent fans by making no moves before tonight's game. Someone needs to pay with their job for the embarrassment of the last two nights. If either Perez or Patterson start this game it is a travesty. Patterson should not see the light of day again this season. Anybody else stay up late and see his last at-bat last night? Couldn't wait to make an out and have the game end.

 

If the same lineup is trotted out there tonight it proves not only that the Cubs stink but that they are not attempting to get better. Thise Cub fans who actually care about winning deserve much better.

 

 

Perez at leadoff is a problem. Perez batting 8th is a good idea.

 

Cedeno starting and Neifi on the bench is an even better idea.

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Perez playing at all is a problem. Why the hell was Cedeno recalled? Perez is part of the swing at the first pitch crowd that is killing this team.
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Perez playing at all is a problem. Why the hell was Cedeno recalled? Perez is part of the swing at the first pitch crowd that is killing this team.

 

Swinging at the first pitch is being aggresive and obviously they've scouted these pitchers to know that you should swing at the first good pitch. That is what Brenley was saying last night. Forget the fact that they were facing a converted relief pitcher who wasn't used to throwing a lot of pitches.

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Perez playing at all is a problem. Why the hell was Cedeno recalled? Perez is part of the swing at the first pitch crowd that is killing this team.

 

Swinging at the first pitch is being aggresive and obviously they've scouted these pitchers to know that you should swing at the first good pitch. That is what Brenley was saying last night. Forget the fact that they were facing a converted relief pitcher who wasn't used to throwing a lot of pitches.

 

They have been swinging at the first pitch all year and putting themselves in bad counts. Check out the pitch counts of the opposing pitchers compared to the Cubs pitchers. We never let a pitcher get himself in trouble. I am reluctant to quote Santo but he's right when he says that these guys are afraid to hit with two strikes. If being aggressive was a good thing in and of itself Corey Patterson would leading the league in hitting.

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Patterson should not see the light of day again this season. Anybody else stay up late and see his last at-bat last night? Couldn't wait to make an out and have the game end.

 

For all intensive purposes the game was already over at that point, but thanks for singling him out. It's not like he hit into a triple play with the bases loaded in a 1 run game.

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Patterson should not see the light of day again this season. Anybody else stay up late and see his last at-bat last night? Couldn't wait to make an out and have the game end.

 

For all intensive purposes the game was already over at that point, but thanks for singling him out. It's not like he hit into a triple play with the bases loaded in a 1 run game.

 

Or sent up 2 incompetent slap hitters with the bases loaded, down by 4 with rain on the way when a homerun was your best bet........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

intents and purposes

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Patterson should not see the light of day again this season. Anybody else stay up late and see his last at-bat last night? Couldn't wait to make an out and have the game end.

 

For all intensive purposes the game was already over at that point, but thanks for singling him out. It's not like he hit into a triple play with the bases loaded in a 1 run game.

 

Why was the game over? Because everyone had given up already? The Braves scored four runs in the fifth after two were out. Patterson gets singled out because he is the worst offender.

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Patterson should not see the light of day again this season. Anybody else stay up late and see his last at-bat last night? Couldn't wait to make an out and have the game end.

 

For all intensive purposes the game was already over at that point, but thanks for singling him out. It's not like he hit into a triple play with the bases loaded in a 1 run game.

 

Or sent up 2 incompetent slap hitters with the bases loaded, down by 4 with rain on the way when a homerun was your best bet........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

intents and purposes

 

Thanks

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Why was the game over? Because everyone had given up already? The Braves scored four runs in the fifth after two were out. Patterson gets singled out because he is the worst offender.

 

(In my opinion) 1-4, 4 LOB is just as bad (if not worse) as 0-4, 2 LOB.

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Why was the game over? Because everyone had given up already? The Braves scored four runs in the fifth after two were out. Patterson gets singled out because he is the worst offender.

 

(In my opinion) 1-4, 4 LOB is just as bad (if not worse) as 0-4, 2 LOB.

 

I have no idea what that means.

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Why was the game over? Because everyone had given up already? The Braves scored four runs in the fifth after two were out. Patterson gets singled out because he is the worst offender.

 

(In my opinion) 1-4, 4 LOB is just as bad (if not worse) as 0-4, 2 LOB.

 

I have no idea what that means.

 

Last night Corey went 0-4 and left 2 on base. Neifi did get a hit, but in the process of going 1-4 he left 4 on base. I don't understand how Patterson gets singled out as the "worst offender"

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Why was the game over? Because everyone had given up already? The Braves scored four runs in the fifth after two were out. Patterson gets singled out because he is the worst offender.

 

(In my opinion) 1-4, 4 LOB is just as bad (if not worse) as 0-4, 2 LOB.

 

I have no idea what that means.

 

Last night Corey went 0-4 and left 2 on base. Neifi did get a hit, but in the process of going 1-4 he left 4 on base. I don't understand how Patterson gets singled out as the "worst offender"

 

BY looking at the numbers over the entire season that's how. Does Neifi have more hits than strikeouts? Does Patterson? What more do you need to see?

 

By the way, Patterson is not the only offender, just the worst. Perez and Barrett are killing this team as well.

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Lord knows theres enough blame to go around.

 

06/14 - 07/05      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Lee                77   17   29    4    2    7   58   14    4   13  0.377  0.407  0.753  1.161
Ramirez            71   10   26    2    0    6   46   18    5   10  0.366  0.416  0.648  1.063
Hairston           33    4   10    2    1    2   20    4    2    6  0.303  0.361  0.606  0.967
Hollandsworth      66    9   23    5    1    3   39   10    2    8  0.348  0.368  0.591  0.959
Burnitz            69   14   21    5    0    3   35    7   12   10  0.304  0.407  0.507  0.915
Dubois             22    3    4    1    0    2   11    2    1    7  0.182  0.250  0.500  0.750
Walker             64    3   18    3    0    0   21    5    5    8  0.281  0.329  0.328  0.657
Cedeno              6    1    1    1    0    0    2    0    1    0  0.167  0.286  0.333  0.619
Macias             14    1    3    2    0    0    5    1    0    4  0.214  0.214  0.357  0.571
Barrett            53    4    7    2    0    2   15    8    4   10  0.132  0.190  0.283  0.473
Wilson             10    0    1    1    0    0    2    0    2    0  0.100  0.250  0.200  0.450
Patterson          73    6   10    1    2    1   18    3    5   25  0.137  0.192  0.247  0.439
Perez              76    6   13    2    0    0   15    3    2    8  0.171  0.203  0.197  0.400
Blanco             21    0    4    0    0    0    4    2    0    3  0.190  0.190  0.190  0.381

CUBS              682   80  174   31    6   26  295   77   45  121  0.255  0.304  0.433  0.737

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Lord knows theres enough blame to go around.

 

06/14 - 07/05      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Lee                77   17   29    4    2    7   58   14    4   13  0.377  0.407  0.753  1.161
Ramirez            71   10   26    2    0    6   46   18    5   10  0.366  0.416  0.648  1.063
Hairston           33    4   10    2    1    2   20    4    2    6  0.303  0.361  0.606  0.967
Hollandsworth      66    9   23    5    1    3   39   10    2    8  0.348  0.368  0.591  0.959
Burnitz            69   14   21    5    0    3   35    7   12   10  0.304  0.407  0.507  0.915
Dubois             22    3    4    1    0    2   11    2    1    7  0.182  0.250  0.500  0.750
Walker             64    3   18    3    0    0   21    5    5    8  0.281  0.329  0.328  0.657
Cedeno              6    1    1    1    0    0    2    0    1    0  0.167  0.286  0.333  0.619
Macias             14    1    3    2    0    0    5    1    0    4  0.214  0.214  0.357  0.571
Barrett            53    4    7    2    0    2   15    8    4   10  0.132  0.190  0.283  0.473
Wilson             10    0    1    1    0    0    2    0    2    0  0.100  0.250  0.200  0.450
Patterson          73    6   10    1    2    1   18    3    5   25  0.137  0.192  0.247  0.439
Perez              76    6   13    2    0    0   15    3    2    8  0.171  0.203  0.197  0.400
Blanco             21    0    4    0    0    0    4    2    0    3  0.190  0.190  0.190  0.381

CUBS              682   80  174   31    6   26  295   77   45  121  0.255  0.304  0.433  0.737

 

Cendeno has 6 ab's in a streach perez has 76 and is hitting .171...awesome

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Lord knows theres enough blame to go around.

 

06/14 - 07/05      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Lee                77   17   29    4    2    7   58   14    4   13  0.377  0.407  0.753  1.161
Ramirez            71   10   26    2    0    6   46   18    5   10  0.366  0.416  0.648  1.063
Hairston           33    4   10    2    1    2   20    4    2    6  0.303  0.361  0.606  0.967
Hollandsworth      66    9   23    5    1    3   39   10    2    8  0.348  0.368  0.591  0.959
Burnitz            69   14   21    5    0    3   35    7   12   10  0.304  0.407  0.507  0.915
Dubois             22    3    4    1    0    2   11    2    1    7  0.182  0.250  0.500  0.750
Walker             64    3   18    3    0    0   21    5    5    8  0.281  0.329  0.328  0.657
Cedeno              6    1    1    1    0    0    2    0    1    0  0.167  0.286  0.333  0.619
Macias             14    1    3    2    0    0    5    1    0    4  0.214  0.214  0.357  0.571
Barrett            53    4    7    2    0    2   15    8    4   10  0.132  0.190  0.283  0.473
Wilson             10    0    1    1    0    0    2    0    2    0  0.100  0.250  0.200  0.450
Patterson          73    6   10    1    2    1   18    3    5   25  0.137  0.192  0.247  0.439
Perez              76    6   13    2    0    0   15    3    2    8  0.171  0.203  0.197  0.400
Blanco             21    0    4    0    0    0    4    2    0    3  0.190  0.190  0.190  0.381

CUBS              682   80  174   31    6   26  295   77   45  121  0.255  0.304  0.433  0.737

 

ahahahaha

 

that is pretty terrible.

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in defense of fahey, i don't think he was singling corey out in that particular game. i think he was just pointing out that corey is not getting any better and probably never will. something i don't disagree with. i think corey's time with the cubs is over, looks like he'll be a backup outfielder for the rest of his career with other teams. thanks for something corey, i just can't remember what it would be.
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in defense of fahey, i don't think he was singling corey out in that particular game. i think he was just pointing out that corey is not getting any better and probably never will. something i don't disagree with. i think corey's time with the cubs is over, looks like he'll be a backup outfielder for the rest of his career with other teams. thanks for something corey, i just can't remember what it would be.

 

For carrying the Cubs offense first half of 2003?

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