Brewers reach deal with Suppan - 4 year, 42 mil

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Everyone should know that Sheets is a top five starter when he's healthy and is better than Zambrano. I believe he became the first pitcher in history with 100 IP, a K/IP greater than 1 and a BB/9 less than 1 last season.

 

Cough Cough.... the key there is when healthy, and even if that is true he still isnt: a. a top five starter and b. better than Zambrano... I think Sheet is underrated... but that comment is ridiculous.

 

I look forward to what ever obscure stat you will retort with. :)

[NorthsideAvenger]

Everyone should know that Sheets is a top five starter when he's healthy and is better than Zambrano. I believe he became the first pitcher in history with 100 IP, a K/IP greater than 1 and a BB/9 less than 1 last season.

 

But Ben Sheets falls into the Mark Prior catergory of "When healthy." A full season of Z is better then on off and on season of Sheets.

 

Besides...if Z would cut down on his walks, I believe he would become a BETTER pitcher then Sheets.

[TruffleShuffle]

Sheets had a better ERA+ in 2004, but 2004 and 2005 were really close and 2006 I already addressed, one bad start that Sheets left hurt increased his ERA by 0.50 on the season while leaving his component ERA largely intact.

 

Can we take out Zambrano's bad start against Pittsburgh then?

[Ender]

Sheets had a better ERA+ in 2004, but 2004 and 2005 were really close and 2006 I already addressed, one bad start that Sheets left hurt increased his ERA by 0.50 on the season while leaving his component ERA largely intact.

 

Can we take out Zambrano's bad start against Pittsburgh then?

 

Well besides the obvious difference that Sheets left with an injury which affected his pitching, I'll do you one better and take out Zambrano's 4 IP, 7 ER game against the Brewers.

 

That makes his ERA 3.17. Doesn't that show something to you? The fact that removing one single bad game swings your ERA by 0.24 while it barely changes your peripheral stats? Take out one game against Was and Zambrano has an ERA of 3.54. The difference between a 3.54 ERA and 3.17 ERA is one bad start replacing one good start and thats over a full season. In Sheet's case it was half a season so double the effect.

 

That doesn't even include things like the bullpen holding runners on, good/bad defensive plays etc. Zambrano leaves the game with the bases loaded, bullpen comes in and gives up a grand slam, his ERA goes up to a 3.53 instead of his 3.41 if they let in 0 runs. One single batter faced by someone other than Zambrano could raise his ERA by 0.12 on the season. Is that a stat you really trust?

[TruffleShuffle]

 

Can we take out Zambrano's bad start against Pittsburgh then?

 

Well besides the obvious difference that Sheets left with an injury which affected his pitching,

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260904116

[Handlebar McSkullet]

 

Can we take out Zambrano's bad start against Pittsburgh then?

 

Well besides the obvious difference that Sheets left with an injury which affected his pitching,

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260904116

 

Does that make him better or worse/ reliable or not?