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That's just really strange considering the deal hasn't gone through yet.

At this point if it takes giving up McNutt to get this process completed, I'm all for it.

Even quade? even bruce kimm I was thinking more Wendell Kim

Even quade? Quade's gotta go.

I know it's from Levine but here's the latest from him: ESPNChiCubs Bruce Levine Source;Red Sox looking for the next Kevin Youkilis in Cub minor leagues as compensation. This may take a bit more time.

Latest now is the Red Sox want only prospects in return for Theor. I think Lucchino is playing games to frustrate the Cubs to get exactly what he wants out of the deal. I've heard recently Lucchino has done that in the past and there's probably some truth to that.

I put the emphasis on trolling. Agreed. He's always one of the first guys on this forum to start crap with other posters if they don't agree with his point of view.

If he talked to Theo at any point prior to asking permission they have a case. The firing of Hendry has nothing to do with it. Agreed. I really doubt Ricketts reached out to Theo before he asked for permission.

Because it was posted earlier and already discussed. We're taking a collection to get that stick removed for you. There's no need for those type of comments don't be an [expletive].

I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more pub: http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/14967/on-yawkey-way-business-as-usual Like I said I'm not getting my hopes up until a press conference has been scheduled or at the very least Cubs confirm it's a done deal.

Nope, and you've officially crossed the line. Congrats :lol:

Nice!

THAT is the moment when we can start celebrating. Agreed. I'm not getting my hopes up yet until the process goes a littler farther.

Is it wrong of me not to get excited just yet? I probably won't until I hear the Cubs confirm that the deal has been done.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1190632/1/index.htm Wow, that's impressive. Let's get this done.

Cubs would be nuts to give up Brett Jackson for a disgruntled GM. The bottom line is Henry came out and told everyone Esptein has a short-term shelf life. Give them one mid level prospect and call it a day. If the Red Sox refuse let the Theo situation be their problem to handle.

I'm getting cautiously optimistic and I shouldn't

I would love to have Theo but I'm scared what the cubs will be willing to give up for him. With the comments red sox ownership made regarding Theo, I don't think we need to give up much but you never know how these things go down.

That sounds believable as I fully expect the Cubs wiling to pay 5-6 million for Epstein to pry him away from the RSox.

Ridiculous. You don't cut a guy who can still be useful just because you don't like him. He still put up a .271 .312 .500 .812 line against LH pitchers this year. Why not just platoon him? If he's already complaining about batting 7th don't you think he's going to complain about being platooned? Also, though the numbers against lefties are slightly above average I fully expect his numbers to be even worse next year. I'd rather let Brett Jackson take up LF full-time or find a better replacement than have Soriano there against lefties and taking a roster spot to do so. That's my opinion of course. If Jackson is in LF and Soriano is cut to make you feel better, who is playing the other OF spot? Where is this better replacement coming from? Are we passing on Fielder/Pujols because we have to spend money on the OF to satisfy Soriano's bloodlust? There should be a decent amount of OF free agents next year that would come cheap and be better than Soriano.

Ridiculous. You don't cut a guy who can still be useful just because you don't like him. He still put up a .271 .312 .500 .812 line against LH pitchers this year. Why not just platoon him? If he's already complaining about batting 7th don't you think he's going to complain about being platooned? Also, though the numbers against lefties are slightly above average I fully expect his numbers to be even worse next year. I'd rather let Brett Jackson take up LF full-time or find a better replacement than have Soriano there against lefties and taking a roster spot to do so. That's my opinion of course.

No, what specifically about being moved around the lineup between 5 and 7 do you think causes a problem? His pregame routine is the same, right? The pitches he sees are basically the same, right? His approach in any given AB is basically the same, right? (And if not, that would change much more as a function of game situation (score, inning, # outs, runners, etc) than lineup spot, and that effect would be there even if he hit in the same lineup spot all year long.) So what specifically would make it so challenging to hit 5th one day, 7th the next, then 6th, etc? What's changing? You're challenging me on points I'm not making, so please stop trying to goad me into fights I'm not starting. I've stated numerous times now that this is likely primarily a "head" issue and indicative of the mess that Quade has made out of the lineups. oh lord..Stop trying to make excuses for an over the hill player. I fully expect Soriano's numbers to be even worse next year. The only thing I'm "making excuses" for is what he he's saying in the article. As for his ability I said this: My point to you when I said "Oh Lord" was how you just want him cut when they already have the huge question of what to do with RF. Worse comes to worse they can still platoon Soriano in RF so that he's mostly facing LH pitchers. Now is not the time to cut him just because of some stupid article. The other part was your blanket statement of how it's always a bad idea to sign "30+ year old's to long contracts." The Cubs foolishly overpaying for Alfonso Sorinao doesn't mean that any FA 30 and up is going to play out the same way. I've wanted Soriano gone for a long time. Personally, I don't have anything against Soriano the person but I hate the player, I always have. He was paid very well by the Cubs to be a difference maker and he was that for 3 years but since that time he stopped running, never played a good defense, and has mental lapses during games. His numbers are only going to get worse and I'd rather take a chance on some AAAA player than have a guy like that on the team.

No, what specifically about being moved around the lineup between 5 and 7 do you think causes a problem? His pregame routine is the same, right? The pitches he sees are basically the same, right? His approach in any given AB is basically the same, right? (And if not, that would change much more as a function of game situation (score, inning, # outs, runners, etc) than lineup spot, and that effect would be there even if he hit in the same lineup spot all year long.) So what specifically would make it so challenging to hit 5th one day, 7th the next, then 6th, etc? What's changing? You're challenging me on points I'm not making, so please stop trying to goad me into fights I'm not starting. I've stated numerous times now that this is likely primarily a "head" issue and indicative of the mess that Quade has made out of the lineups. oh lord..Stop trying to make excuses for an over the hill player. I fully expect Soriano's numbers to be even worse next year.

All the more reason to eat his horrible contract and let him go. Might be one of the worst contracts ever. In the end we got ~3 good years out of him. Even I expected to get more out of him. This is what you get when you sign 30+ year old's to long contracts.

But isn't he signed through 2012? So he can't just leave to take another job correct?