Has the fact that Gary Hughes was at Petco Park watching Maddux pitch last night been discussed anywhere? Why does no one seem to see that Marquis is actually better than Maddux? Because he's not. Based on what exactly? Putting Maddux in a division with parks that trend heavily towards hitters parks in August isn't exactly a sound decision. Marquis sucks, no doubt, but Maddux's numbers this season are influenced by the parks in that division. Based on everything. Maddux has a better ERA, better WHIP, fewer walks, more K's, and a better ERA+. What exactly are you basing your statement that Marquis is better on? Top of my head calculations,('07x2, '08x1) Marquis has roughly an equal ERA+ to Maddux the past 2 seasons. Convenient that you're just looking at the last two years. Marquis ERA+ 06: 74 07: 101 08: 94 Maddux ERA+ 06: 109 07: 98 08: 100 They've been close the last two years combined, but in no way has Marquis been better. And if you look at three year splits, they're nowhere near.