I'm not comparing them as similar players, damnit. Only saying that if a player as "advanced" as Rizzo took 3 years of major league experience to "get it" then people are stupid for expecting someone with Javy's limitations to make big improvements within 2 months. You can say this for just about every 21 year old not named Mike Trout. Rizzo's obviously the most convenient since people know his history and don't have to go look up and disect someone else's fangraphs page to understand the point. Go use Carlos Gomes or something if it makes you more comfortable. The bigger point is that it's probably going to take a few years for him unless we're lucky, but I'd bet on him getting there. Maybe it does make sense to trade him if you're trying to maximize wins now, but I'd really prefer using him to get another primeish position player that becomes available as opposed to an older pitcher. Donaldson would've been perfect. baez struck out in 30 percent of his pa in aaa. that's really, really, really bad. in rizzo's horrible disaster padres stint,* he struck out in 30.1 percent of his pa. add in that rizzo is a magic mashing machine that somehow strikes out less against better pitchers and these guys just aren't comparable at all. baez could turn things around, but he has a lot more work to do than the guys to whom you are comparing him. also, you can't use baez to get a prime position player because everybody knows about the strikeouts. *which i thank the nonexistent lord for every day because it's the only reason got him