Magnetic Curses
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While I agree with your stance on expectations in a 30 team league, you think that emotional reactions are odd after say, losing in the Stanley Cup Finals (or whenever)? When the Bears lost the Super Bowl, I was in no way prepared to call that a disappointment. you weren't disappointed when they lost the the biggest game (or tie for biggest) in modern bear history?
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that's what i thought.
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are you serious?
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A. What have I shown myself to be ignorant of? B. You still talk out of your ass. :confused:
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What are the odds of any team going through 3 teams to the finals? Can't be much better. Heck, in any sport. Exactly. The whole "championship or it's a disappointment" thing befuddles me in the era of 30-team leagues. we've been waiting a long time.
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anybody else want to accuse me of "talking out of my ass" on this subject when they're actually the ones who don't know what they're talking about?
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agreed, but i wouldn't link the eventual lack of motivation, necessarily, with contract status. some people just stop caring or don't want to be crippled or whatever. most of the time, they're rich beyond imagining anyway and have been for many years. so they've really been playing without monetary motivation for a while.
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It's not nothing, but it's certainly less. peppers has been ungodly rich for a long time, now. if there is no motivation for team success, then it can most certainly be reasoned that he's playing for the hall. sometimes players just aren't good anymore and it has nothing to do with guaranteed money.
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mike davis is simply going to have to redefine his game as something more than just jumpshooting. if he wants to help his team next year, he's got to take the ball to the hoop.
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Surprise? No way did Cal bend the rules. I refuse to believe that. Your right. There is a difference between bending and breaking. Cal did the latter. you're right, it's his right to refuse to believe that.
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i don't buy this whole motivation thing anyway. if peppers plays well over the next 4-5 years, he's in the hall of fame. that's reason enough. i reject that these players have nothing to play for once they get paid.
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that sounds about right except mccamey IS a good basketball player.
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No, that's not how it works. Teams are allowed to offer more money to their own players. bird rights give current teams the ability to go over the cap to sign their own free agents, but only up to the maximum salary. and it only applies, obviously, if the team is close to the cap. the cavs aren't close to the cap, if we're really talking about lebron. in addition, current teams can offer 2.5% more in raises per year, but that only gives current teams advantages in years 2-6. however, if another team signs a FA, in year 4, they gain bird rights, meaning that they can offer the 2.5% raise starting after year 3. giving the home team a 2.5% advanatge in years 2 and 3 of any contract. not much of an advantage they CAN offer a 6th year, which other teams can't, though. Doesn't that mean that they have a decent advantage for the rest of the contract? The other team can't raise the ~5% that's already been hypothetically raised in years 2 and 3 plus the 2.5% in year 4, so the current teams salary will be larger than the new team in each year, and the difference will actually grow since you'll be raising 2.5% of a larger base. I believe the percentage raise is based off the year one salaries, so there's no compounding. exactly.
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i still don't buy it. ever since lebron signed that last deal in cleveland, the talk was that the cavs' best hopes were that they could offer him substantially more. for an atheist, you aren't requiring that much proof. you've been listening to those cav fan/believers. those guys are adding the 6th year salary to the contract numbers and telling you that the cavs can offer that much more. in actuality, the 6th year will probably be worth less than the first year of a new contract to a 30-year-old lebron.
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it's more cosmopolitan there than metropolitan, anyway, jerk.
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shut up shut up shut up.
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if no one can answer the question, i'll give it to you: over the life of a max 5 year contract, an incumbent team can offer roughly $400,000 total more than any other. not enough to make a difference.
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just tell me how much you think home teams can offer, that's all i'm asking.
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since i don't remember any of your posts at all, i'll give you a pass.
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like i said, bird rights tranfer in year 4. so the advantage exists in year 2 and 3.
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how much more can other teams offer? just curious. Maybe next time you will know what you're talking about before talking out of your ass. maybe you'll recognize a rhetorical question when you see one, genius. and get out of the way, i wasn't talking to you, anyway.
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No, that's not how it works. Teams are allowed to offer more money to their own players. bird rights give current teams the ability to go over the cap to sign their own free agents, but only up to the maximum salary. and it only applies, obviously, if the team is close to the cap. the cavs aren't close to the cap, if we're really talking about lebron. in addition, current teams can offer 2.5% more in raises per year, but that only gives current teams advantages in years 2-6. however, if another team signs a FA, in year 4, they gain bird rights, meaning that they can offer the 2.5% raise starting after year 3. giving the home team a 2.5% advanatge in years 2 and 3 of any contract. not much of an advantage they CAN offer a 6th year, which other teams can't, though.
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how much more can other teams offer? just curious.
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what are you confused about? one is an okie joke and the other is reality.
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shouldn't you be headed out californie-way? besides, the bulls aren't going to be offering less money than anyone's current team can offer. that's not how things work.