Dude is set for a breakdown in the next couple of years thanks to Dusty. greg maddux pitched under dusty too. How often was he on the DL? I'm not saying Dusty didn't abuse pitchers, but to trade arguably your team MVP based on a maybe seems like a terrible, terrible idea Maddux was the exception, not the norm. Re: Lilly as the ace, I'm not okay with Lilly being the Ace (besides, it'd be Prior if healthy, if not then Hill, or possibly Bedard if he was in the trade). I wouldn't decide whether or not to make that trade based on it leaving Lilly as the ace. I'd make a decision based on whether or not it improved the team, and I think that trade would. The question is, whether you weigh more for short term or long term improvement. Coming off of a 66 win season, I'm not looking to win it all this year. I'd be looking long term, and I believe that trade improves the team more in the long run than the short run. If the downfall of that trade is that it leaves Lilly as the ace, then that's a bigger sign that we're not put together to seriously contend this year anyways, which is all the more reason to make a long-term trade.