i say this all the time but here goes again. the problem is not with particular players. pierre is doing exactly what we hoped for. he is above his down year and below his best years. he is ok not great and not cpatt leading off either. this goes for jones also. he is doing as well as we could hope. right at his career averages. the problem is that they should both be complementary players not the studs. i think we would be just fine with either of them if we had picked up a stud power hitter. if we followed pierre with dlee, aram and manny rameriz...he would probably score almost every time he was on.instead he is followed by aram,nevin,barrett, jones or mabry the problem isn't pierre...it's the team that hendry put around him. remember in florida in his heydey..he was followed by pudge-who was automatic in 2003, cabrera ,lowell ,conine, dlee....that certainly helped his value. we could live with pierre..but we can not if we keep this lineup as is.