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He has an obp of .347 in 2006. That's not "recent"? Anyways, that's not the point. I don't care about Roberts when deiciding where to put Soriano. I also don't care about his declining speed. That's just another overemphasized point for you to argue. The most important thing is his bat, and where it performs the best. Just stop with this nonsense. You're not going to convince anybody that any of these garbage leadoff theories are more important than hitting.
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He has an obp of .347 in 2006. That's not "recent"? Anyways, that's not the point. I don't care about Roberts when deiciding where to put Soriano. I also don't care about his declining speed. That's just another overemphasized point for you to argue. The most important thing is his bat, and where it performs the best. Just stop with this nonsense. You're not going to convince anybody that any of these garbage leadoff theories are more important than hitting. Also, you still haven't explained to me why those characteristics of Roberts that you love so much can't also be utilied in the 2 hole.
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Oh and by the way, Roberts' career obp is only 10 points higher than Soriano's career OBP while batting leadoff.
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Oh god. Why do you always resort to "well, these guys said so" when trying to defend your statements? Oh, because you can't back up your claims on your own, that's why. Why don't you think for yourself instead of copping out? I could name drop plenty of guys that agree with me too, but I won't. You know why? Because I can think for myself. Anyways, most of those guys you named aren't exactly the most reputable baseball people. Using guys like Mike Murphy, Jim Sullivan, and Jim Hendry to help validate your argument? Yikes. That honestly hurts your argument. Seriously. So why can't Roberts just bat 2nd, where his speed and OBP will be utilized just as well? Oh, because "he's a leadoff hitter", that's why. We can't possibly bat him anywhere other than leadoff, for that would be blashpemy! The world would end! No, he's most valuable where he performs the best. I'm not under the impression that a cheap 100 rbi's is worth having him go .260/.315/.490 with an enormous amout on LOB. Not at all. What's funny is that if he's moved down, you'll be one of the people complaining about him when June rolls around and he's not performing, even though he'll have those RBI's you're so desperately seeking.
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And as we all know, those sources are never wrong, right? It didn't? He had the second highest ops of his career last season. I like how you try to pass your speculation off as fact. As someone else already mentioned, I'm pretty sure Roberts would bat second (even though I doubt he'll be playing for the Cubs this season). I love how you state that you don't have time to back up your statements, yet you have time to make post after post. How convenient.
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Not trying to defend him, but he is a serial killer. It's just who he is. Keep in mind i only attack people who deserve it.
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Wait, so you continously state an opinion, then when someone asks you to back it up, you "don't have time"? Forgive us for not taking you seriously.
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We're not "Soriano leadoff lovers", we're "getting the best performance out of an overpaid outfielder making 18 mil a year" lovers.
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It's the fact that everything you say has been refuted heavily with logic and reasoning. Soriano is more suited to hitin the middle of the order? If by "better suited" you mean his numbers dropping dramatically and a record number of LOB, then yet, he's "better suited". Everytime I see your name I get ready to read a ridiculous post.
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Your posts make my head hurt.
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Oh that's easy: Kent Merker and Neifi Perez Wasn't Neifi on "the list". Neifi only tested positive for adderall for adhd. -
See, I can quote him too. Anyways, he said "they don't like his contract", not "they can't take on his contract because of payroll issues". Just because they can unload Marquis' salary doesn't mean they suddenly like Crisp's salary more.
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Bruce Miles said earlier in this thread that the Cubs aren't really interested In crisp and that they don't see him as an upgrade. I'd very much believe Miles over Levine. A large part of Mr. Miles' point was that the Cubs don't like Crisp's contract. If you can move Marquis in the process, that becomes largely irrelevant. Not really. I believe his exact words were "they judt don't see him as an upgrade".
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:D I'm not positive because I can't find the stat, but I think Z had good run support last season.
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Bruce Miles said earlier in this thread that the Cubs aren't really interested In crisp and that they don't see him as an upgrade. I'd very much believe Miles over Levine.
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It's called a prediction. Id like to hear you basis for this prediction, cause the Astros rotation is horrible outside of Oswalt. and decent starters behind him (Backe, Wandy, Williams and Sampson). Decent? That's like having 4 Jason Marquis' after Zambrano.
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It's called a prediction. Id like to hear you basis for this prediction, cause the Astros rotation is horrible outside of Oswalt. and decent starters behind him (Backe, Wandy, Williams and Sampson). Decent? That's like having 4 Jason Marquis' after Zambrano.
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It's called a prediction. Id like to hear you basis for this prediction, cause the Astros rotation is horrible outside of Oswalt. The Padres offense is horrible outside of maybe Adrian Gonzalez and Khalil Greene. Their offense always is like that that and they sill wtin 80+. Anyways, their offense wouldn't look as bad if they didn't play at Petco.
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So I'm pretty sure I'm about to get banned from OH. Some guy proposed a Roberts/Payton/Sherrill trade for Gallagher/Colvin/Murton/Cedeno/Patterspn/Veal trade and I responded by saying it would be a terrible trade for the Cubs. Of course, I immediately feel the wrath of Roberts lovers, having to endure such statements as "Gaha, it's ludicrous to say that that's a bad deal for the Cubs. You'd be getting out all-star second basemen and our closer! You saying that would be a bad deal for the Cubs literally made my jaw fall to the floor!" Seriously, did Roberts cast some kind of spell on these guys or something?
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I'm sure the Orioles fans appreciated it when he majorly scooped the Tejada trade! Since then, it's been a whole bunch of nothing though. I think it is real, real, hard to say he scooped the Tejada trade when everyone whose been paying attention knew that the O's were trading Tejada and almost every major sports media outlet posted Tejada to Houston rumors for 48 hours before the trade was consummated. You can believe what you want. Stupid spelling! Rosenthal published in article earlier that morning saying that the talks were off between the Astros and Orioles. Couple that with the fact that he knew the exact 5 names (which were never mentioned anywhere) and I think it's "real, real, hard" to say that he doesn't get at least some kind of info.
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fixed Yeah. I was actually going to type that exact statement but changed it in fear that people would self-destruct at the realization that Roberts probably isn't coming.
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The fact that there hasn't been even a peep about Roberts over the past week or so is kind of strange.
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Oh give me a break. You know damn well that you were implying that his 2006 was the only reason his career splits were noticable. Don't even try to act like you weren't. Go read what I said. I said that 2006 made his leadoff splits look more pronounced, particularly in terms of OBP (because of all the IBBs he got). And seriously, stop trying to put words into my mouth just because, in your head, you misinterpreted what I said. First assuming that I had no idea that Soriano had hit leadoff before 2006, now this. Here is your exact quote. Your point about his 2006 numbers being more pronounced DIRECTLY followed your statement about the Soriano "crap" needing to stop. I don't see how I was wrong to assume that you were using the second sentence to qualify the first.
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Oh, and get out of here with that "causational link" garbage. I have no idea what that means, and I don't care. What I do know is that you're making an argument without backing it up at all. Fine, say what you want about burden of proof, but forgive me if I don't take you seriously when you choose to dodge the real questions because of a technicality. If I tell a guy that Albert Pujols is better than Omar Infante, and he says "no he's not", then you're right, the burden of proof isn't on him to explain why Pujols isn't better. However, if you plan on being taken seriously, you should back up your words and explain why you think Soriano's numbers drop off so much other than "it's a coincidence".