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  1. You act like they traded good players or something. The only thing of value that the bulls gave up was Gooden's expiring, and the fact that they got rid of Nocioni's contract makees up for it. Poeple are going to be dissapointing because it's not an Amare trade, but it's definitely a good trade. Plus it's very 2010 friendly Over the long term it's not, I think. This might put the Bulls into the playoffs as an 8 seed only to get crushed by Lebron or Garnett. Next year.. on the other hand... With this trade, the Bulls are basically showing Gordon the door at the end of the season with Salmons coming on. Salmons' numbers are inflated because he's played about half of the season without Martin and Garcia. Brad Miller hasn't been good since 05, and that's pushing it. He's never healthy. Add on that Hughes and Hinrich will probably be gone, and the Bulls have pretty much depleted this team depth-wise going into the 2009 season (considering there aren't very many good free agents this upcoming off-season). I think gearing up to the 2010 season is foolish. Lebron is pretty much either staying in Cleveland or going to NYC (that is if he opts out). I'm not so sure Wade is going to opt out of Miami. Same goes for Stoudemire or Dirk. Portland isn't going to let Brandon Roy go as he's a restricted FA. Okay, so what is bad about this trade? I'm not saying it makes us good this year or next year, but what bad does it do? Depletes this team's depth, and overall talent. Pretty much keeps them right at the 8 seed in the Eastern Conference Playoffs or not in. Lateral move. Gooden is better than Miller. Salmons won't be better than Gordon (that is if he leaves which I think is going to happen). Simple. Gordon is leaving anyway, and Gooden is definitely not Better than Miller. I don't really see the "depletes the team's depth and overall talent" stuff is coming from. That doesn't really make any sense. Gooden and Nocioni blow. Gooden and Salmons are better, and we also get rid of Nocioni's contract. This is a lateral move at WORST. I don't see a single thing coming out of this trade that could make the team worse. I think you're just dissapointed that it's not a blockbuster trade. A trade doesn't have to be great to be good. Also I think it's unfair how you just write off the 2010 facotr, as though we have no chance at Stoudemire/Wade/Bosh/Dirk/LeBron, and pretty silly to call the idea "foolish". What makes you think those guys WON'T test free agency? Of course they will. It's foolish to think that they won't, and despite what you might believe, Chicago is still an attractive destination, especially now that Rose is here.
  2. You act like they traded good players or something. The only thing of value that the bulls gave up was Gooden's expiring, and the fact that they got rid of Nocioni's contract makees up for it. Poeple are going to be dissapointing because it's not an Amare trade, but it's definitely a good trade. Plus it's very 2010 friendly Over the long term it's not, I think. This might put the Bulls into the playoffs as an 8 seed only to get crushed by Lebron or Garnett. Next year.. on the other hand... With this trade, the Bulls are basically showing Gordon the door at the end of the season with Salmons coming on. Salmons' numbers are inflated because he's played about half of the season without Martin and Garcia. Brad Miller hasn't been good since 05, and that's pushing it. He's never healthy. Add on that Hughes and Hinrich will probably be gone, and the Bulls have pretty much depleted this team depth-wise going into the 2009 season (considering there aren't very many good free agents this upcoming off-season). I think gearing up to the 2010 season is foolish. Lebron is pretty much either staying in Cleveland or going to NYC (that is if he opts out). I'm not so sure Wade is going to opt out of Miami. Same goes for Stoudemire or Dirk. Portland isn't going to let Brandon Roy go as he's a restricted FA. Okay, so what is bad about this trade? I'm not saying it makes us good this year or next year, but what bad does it do?
  3. What do you want him to say? What could he say that could make anyone happy? This is A-Rod's mess, but the self-righteous indignation by some players, the public, and press is really annoying to me. Most everyone would do the same thing if they were in his situation. It doesn't make what he did right, it makes what he did human. There were at least 100 other guys who tested positive and probably many others who were just lucky. They should all (owners, managers, and players) get in a circle and shoot, because they are all in it together. What do I want him to say? How about the truth? Either that, or stop talking. Pretty simple. I'd rather have a guy flat out deny it than make a "confession" to try and save face, only to end up making excuse after excuse and pretend like he didn't know what he was doing was wrong. If you're going to confess, then confess.
  4. and many people here openly believe Miles will eventually be the starter. No they don't. Who? I literally haven't seen a single person say that. I think we all understand that Fontenot will, at the very least, get the ABs against RHP. Lou and Hendry have said repeatedly this offseason before they traded DeRosa that they were going to try and find a way to get him more at-bats.
  5. You act like they traded good players or something. The only thing of value that the bulls gave up was Gooden's expiring, and the fact that they got rid of Nocioni's contract makees up for it. Poeple are going to be dissapointing because it's not an Amare trade, but it's definitely a good trade. Plus it's very 2010 friendly
  6. Man our team is a lot less pretty this year.
  7. I was just watching a bunch of Bradley highlights on mlb.com..... I never realized how pretty his swing is from the left side, especially when he goes the opposite way (which is a lot apparently).
  8. If everything that's being said is true, there's really nothing the Bulls can do about it. If he's off the market, he's off the market. The only way we really had/have a shot is if Sarver is demanding he be traded for financial reasons. As an actual basketball trade, a package centered with Thomas for Stoudemire sounds crappy.
  9. Standard platoon, dudes
  10. God Arod is such a liar. During the interview with Gammons he kept talking about how he felt so guilty when he was using PEDs and then talked about how good it feels to finally be honest and admit he was doing something wrong. Then, today, he starts talking about how all these years he didn't know that he had done something wrong? WTF? Then whatdid you feel bad about all these years? He needs to stop talking because he's making himself look worse and worse and is only going to get into more trouble.
  11. damn it. I'm convinced Reinsdorf fudged this up again. I just know it. That's a decieving article. That Kerr quote is a few days old, and it doesn't mean Amare won't be traded. I think Kerr has always wanted to keep Amare. It's Sarver who was wanting to trade him. Kerr saying he'd like to keep Amare doesn't really mean anything.
  12. Nope just be fair and actually criticize Khabi when he has a bad game as well, considering it's about as often as Huet. When Khabi has a bad night it's just an aberration, but when Huet has a bad night it's just him being awful and being exposed.
  13. That should have been a penalty shot, but whatever
  14. Before tonight the most SOG the Lightning have ever given up in a game was 48. Hawks have 49 tonight.
  15. omfg havlat. that was ridiculous
  16. Kerry ROYmo, as cyno would say. I hate games like this. The hawks are thoroughly dominating but are probably going to lose because of a penalty and a fluke performance from a garbage tender
  17. There you go again. OMG HE'S HAVING A BAD GAME
  18. unbelievable. stamkos has been trash all season. we're outshooting them 28-12 and are going to lose because of a penalty.
  19. wow they better not lose this game
  20. Mercker was good with the Cubs.
  21. http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200809133469162&c_id=tex That is just this last September. I like the part where he starts flipping off the fans and yelling at them. Poor guy, he's just misunderstood.
  22. please post here more often
  23. I think we're all agreeing that Meph made a good argument and we all agree there's a good chance that Fukudome gets better. The problem is Meph didn't say "there's still hope" for Fukudome. He flat out said he's a good hitter and basically that we're stupid for even questioning that it's anything but a foregone conclusion that Fukudome will be good this season.
  24. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/1433227,lilly-ozzie-steroids-021609.article Not sure I agree with what either of these guys are saying.
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