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  1. 17 Seconds
    Lovie isn't calling the plays. That's all Ron Turner. yeah i changed it. i was complaining about him not taking the timeout right away, but i thought it was only 3rd down and not 4th
  2. 17 Seconds
    WHAT THE [expletive] ARE YOU DOING
  3. 17 Seconds
    oh look another drop
  4. 17 Seconds
    i think cutler would have had the 1st down if he just went straight and didnt try that extra move
  5. 17 Seconds
    the bears are completely falling apart
  6. 17 Seconds
    wait, so cutler sucks now because of a bad first half? He'll be fine, but c'mon people are allowed to gripe when their QB is 6-17 0 TD 3 INT in his 1st half of football after we traded 2 firsts and whatever else for him. I don't even think Rex had a half that bad with the Bears no i'm not defending his play, he's been pathetic. but let's keep this in perspectivce and try to avoid the "cutler is a bust!" stuff I'm pretty sure the people who are saying that don't even mean it and are caught up in emotion. i know
  7. 17 Seconds
    hahahah lovie actually loses a yard on a challenge. this is going so well.
  8. 17 Seconds
    wait, so cutler sucks now because of a bad first half? He'll be fine, but c'mon people are allowed to gripe when their QB is 6-17 0 TD 3 INT in his 1st half of football after we traded 2 firsts and whatever else for him. I don't even think Rex had a half that bad with the Bears no i'm not defending his play, he's been pathetic. but let's keep this in perspectivce and try to avoid the "cutler is a bust!" stuff
  9. 17 Seconds
    no. if he fumbled into the endzone before he stepped out it's a touchback aand bears ball
  10. 17 Seconds
    wait, so cutler sucks now because of a bad first half?
  11. 17 Seconds
    embarrassing
  12. 17 Seconds
    package one or two of those receivers with cutler and try to get a stud wr
  13. 17 Seconds
    would have been even better if they didn't trade alderson for sanchez
  14. 17 Seconds
    The point is that eyeballing a player's defense is an even worse idea. At least something like UZR or Plus/Minus is attempting to add some objectivity to the process of defensive metrics with their advanced analysis of batted ball data. You're right that they aren't perfect, but they're better than nothing, which is what you seem to be using. i'd hardly call watching 95% of a guy's plays at shortstop and then making an opinion "nothing". is it absolutely accurate? no. but calling it nothing and saying some unreliable statistic is superior is kind of ridiculous i think. it's not like i'm basing my opinion of his defense on a handful of plays or anything.
  15. 17 Seconds
    if one were to put some thought into it, one could extrapolate that since team UZR does, in fact, have a positive relationship with lowering ERA, that individual UZR could, in fact, have a similar relationship. like i said, i understand that there is a lot of truth in uzr. i never said there wasn't. i'm saying it's unreliable and shouldn't be used to judge performance by a player and then act like it is definitive at all. according to uzr, derek jeter has become one of the best defensive shortstops in the league the last 2 seasons after being horrible for 3 straight years prior to that. so are the numbers inaccurate, or has jeter suddenly become a great shortstop? i think the former seems more likely.
  16. 17 Seconds
    i understand what the graph is. i've seen you talk in the past about how bad jeter is defensively. so then why has jeter been in the top half of the league in uzr rankings the past 2 seasons?
  17. 17 Seconds
    ignored what? the graphic? i don't see how that says anything about how accurate uzr is for specific single players. i'm not sure i even understand what the point of that graphic is. i never said uzr is always wrong or that there's no truth in it. i said that i don't put any stock into it because of how unreliable it is when you're trying rate players. do you guys believe jeter is a top 5 defender? that's an honest question.
  18. 17 Seconds
    can't you just put me on ignore and stop talking to me? seriously, you claim to hate me so much, yet you keep saying things to me.
  19. 17 Seconds
    is it really that hard for you to do that? funny to hear you call somebody obnoxious though, considering you constantly make posts just taking shots at me that have nothing to do with the conversation (and usually in a conversation that you aren't even involved in). seriously, what do you get out of constantly making one line shots at me (ones that you think are funny) and then running off? just try to not do that. thanks.
  20. 17 Seconds
    Are you ever right about anything? typical response and exactly what i expected out of you. you make a very convincing argument. good job.
  21. 17 Seconds
    (a) knowledge is something that is KNOWN; a lot of people don't KNOW that theriot is a bad defender. (b) your posts need to stop being such condescending d-bags. a) yeah, just like people that don't KNOW that Jake Fox is bad at catcher, or that people don't KNOW that dusty baker is a terrible manager. b) condescending d-bags? why don't you go back at this thread and look at your posts, then tell me which one of us was the first one to be a condescending d-bag to the other.
  22. 17 Seconds
    Agreed, Same with Jeter. :roll: uzr has jeter as a top 5 shortstop this season!
  23. 17 Seconds
    seriously? Seriously. Plus/minus has him above average at shortstop for the past three seasons. While defensive metrics may not be perfect, there's no question that I trust their methodology more than your jaundiced perceptions. wait, so because i think he's a poor defender, that means i'm jaundiced? okay. seriously, this is not even some kind of heretic opinion. i thought it was pretty common knowledge that he is a poor defender. oh but some defensive metrics that will probably have him as horrible and miguel tejada as the best shortstop next season say he's good, so that's that.
  24. 17 Seconds
    do people still seriously use defensive metrics for anything at all? uzr, which is supposed to be the most badass defensive metric out there, has derek jeter as one of the best defensive shortstops in baseball this season. seriously, stop using defensive metrics.
  25. 17 Seconds
    i thought that even the most loyal theriot supporters admitted his defense sucks
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