Shapiro is different from Hart in that he hasn't made any ridiculous deals sending away quality talent for little in return. Also, coming from a Lorain county resident(well, until this summer), I've heard that the sellout streak is, how do you say it, less than legitimate. :) The tickets were bought regardless, haha. Yeah, the Indians had more talent than they knew what to do with. I mean, Albert Belle was let walk. Same with Manny Ramirez. Thome had to be let go because of the youth movement. Ditto with Vizquel. We traded Brian Giles for Ricardo Rincon. Richie Sexson for Jason Bere. We blew out Jaret Wright's arm in '97. Russel Branyon...well, that one isn't quite a disappointment. The list goes on... My personal favorite is Jeromy Burnitz for Kevin Seitzer.