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Hadn't thought of that, but considering the big spot(whatever hotel that is) is a block+ away from the stadium, and the new Busch is in almost the exact same spot, I don't think the newness of the stadium will have a huge impact on demand.

How many teams in that league? Who was your first pick?

12 teams, R, HR, RBI, SB, TB, OBP, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, K/9 C V. Martínez 1B C. Tracy 2B R. Freel 3B D. Wright SS M. Young OF P. Burrell OF G. Jenkins OF J. Gomes Util C. Guillén BN R. Baldelli BN Lu. González(COL) SP R. Harden SP F. Hernández P M. Buehrle P J. Blanton P S. Linebrink RP D. Turnbow RP R. Dempster BN R. Betancourt Thoughts?

I was the one who used the phrase "weak minded" pitchers. I explained why I used it and how a pitcher can avoid getting distracted. You're ability to be sarcastic was clouded by actually asking what I thought was a legit question rather than being cute. Save your attempts for trying to appear witty for someone else, some of us try to have intelligent posts and some like you try to ruin it for the rest of us w/ your weak-mindedness. I appreciate you explaining how a pitcher can avoid getting distracted. You should write a book or something. I wasn't aware that pitchers could vary their times to the plate and throw over to first base(?!?). Wow! You must have watched at least one baseball game before(I'm sure you've watched more than that...it was very informative and well thought out). You're like the Joe Morgan of posters( by "poster", I don't mean those things you put on the wall, but by people that contribute messages, or "posts", to message boards). I'll try to control my attempts at humor in the future. I'm really sorry( by "sorry", I mean that I apolgize, or apologise). I've been told by my mom that I'm really funny and a really great catch(by "catch", I mean a partner, or significant other, for some nice girl). I guess I believed her, the lying whore. That's the last time you make a fool out of me, Mother...the LAST time. If someone is the Joe Morgan of posters, it's not going to be UK. That's pretty uncalled for.

Just walk up to the game. At the hotel a block away(can't remember the chain), there were plenty of guys with tickets for the Neifi GS game, and that was a Sunday Night game. We got 2 really good seats for only a couple bucks over face value(face value was 42 each I think, we paid 90 for 2). And that was over an hour and a half before first pitch.

If pitchers get distracted, then why did the person following Pierre perform worse when Pierre was on base more? Apparently, Castillo's not good @ hitting w/ a guy on first. Small sample size considering the many, many speedy leadoff men who have played baseball... And yet a very sizable sample for the exact individual we're talking about. Can we see the effects from some of these other speedy leadoff men? Does it translate year to year? Or is it like "Cutch hitting" where the results fluctuate wildly from year to year? The correlation between Castillo and Pierre? The basic idea(Pierre does well, Castillo does worse, and vice versa) held true for 3 years I believe.

If pitchers get distracted, then why did the person following Pierre perform worse when Pierre was on base more? Apparently, Castillo's not good @ hitting w/ a guy on first. Small sample size considering the many, many speedy leadoff men who have played baseball... And yet a very sizable sample for the exact individual we're talking about. Can we see the effects from some of these other speedy leadoff men?

I don't think a poster is going to give their credit card number to a poster who has been on here for just 2 posts. To be fair, it may be that TMTM would buy the tickets for Burton without his info.

I'm sick of the disregard for psychology. It offends my intelligence. Then provide evidence of the effects. Either it's real and has effects, isn't real, or is real and has an impact too small to see.

Yes, Pittsburgh is closer to Cleveland than Cincy. Over twice as close. Yep, Mapquest says 4 to Cincy and 2 and a quarter to Pitt. Plus it's an easier drive with the turnpike. I can get to Cleveland in an hour and a half. Oh, no doubt. Mapquest is notoriously conservative with their estimates. They assume the speed limit.

Yes, Pittsburgh is closer to Cleveland than Cincy. Over twice as close. Yep, Mapquest says 4 to Cincy and 2 and a quarter to Pitt. Plus it's an easier drive with the turnpike.

Seth = Nicholas Cage in Matchstick Men

Yes, Pittsburgh is closer to Cleveland than Cincy.

Uh, they print them out and bring them to the park to sell?

I have my doubts as to the level of havoc it causes being anything but minimal, but MLB pitchers have commented on the fact that they sometimes pitch differently or pay too much attention to the runner. The fact that I love my wife and child is no less true because I can't show proof that I do. In Pierre's case, we have the benefit of him and Castillo batting almost exclusively 1 and 2 for several years. Look at the numbers, when Pierre is performing well(i.e. he's on base a lot), Castillo does poorly. When Pierre isn't performing well and not on base very much, Castillo performed very very well. Their OPS's made almost a perfect ratio. Not that I doubt you, but is there any sort of study or any numbers someone has crunced that support this conclusion? I'm curious as to how this conclusion was derived, as I'd never heard this theory before. Not a study by any means, but when Pierre was brought up at some point I looked up his numbers. We have the good fortune of Pierre/Castillo being 1/2 for a significant sample, and those were the findings. I have class to go to in a minute so I don't have time to look them up again, but someone feel free to look at their numbers. IIRC, the numbers held true for "runners on" situations as well as overall production.

But we're talking specifically about Pierre. And we have evidence that runs contrary to the "he distracts the pitchers because he's a top 10 speed guy or whatever" theory. There's no evidence for that cause aside from logic that makes sense and has player support for either side. That theory is pretty much shot(especially Pierre's case) unless there's something else besides an individual's dogged belief to back it up.

If pitchers get distracted, then why did the person following Pierre perform worse when Pierre was on base more?

Both seem logical, and I'm sure you could find players that will vouch for either side.

I have my doubts as to the level of havoc it causes being anything but minimal, but MLB pitchers have commented on the fact that they sometimes pitch differently or pay too much attention to the runner. The fact that I love my wife and child is no less true because I can't show proof that I do. In Pierre's case, we have the benefit of him and Castillo batting almost exclusively 1 and 2 for several years. Look at the numbers, when Pierre is performing well(i.e. he's on base a lot), Castillo does poorly. When Pierre isn't performing well and not on base very much, Castillo performed very very well. Their OPS's made almost a perfect ratio.

I'm still bitter about playing @ Kohl while Wisconsin was at full strength. Of course with last night's loss, I'm not going to make any concerted effort to watch MSU until the U of I game and the following tourneys.

His speed has value, and it's already reflected in his production by means of beat out singles, extra bases on balls in the gap, stolen bases, etc. Murton's still pretty likely to match or better Pierre's production, and there's not a lot outside of that helping Pierre's cause. Speed can't only be measured as only tangible. This has been argued over and over here though, so I'll leave it at that. Whatever you want to attribute to speed, Murton is a pretty fast guy as well. There's not an enormous difference.

His speed has value, and it's already reflected in his production by means of beat out singles, extra bases on balls in the gap, stolen bases, etc. Murton's still pretty likely to match or better Pierre's production, and there's not a lot outside of that helping Pierre's cause.

Isn't blindly looking at OPS without respect to ballpark or anything else picking and choosing?

But that doesn't explain a certain type of kid, which is what Goony was originally referring to.

Bummer.