I said that the Cubs minor league pitching is bad, that Hendry and his talent scouts has not produced even average pitching for our Cubs. The system islong on potential and short on results. I believe it was Badger, drinking his blue kool-aid. All I can say is the truth. Beltran, Blasko, Brownlie, Christensen, Cruz, Farnsworth, Hagerty, Jones, Mitre, Sisco, Smyth, Szuminski, Wellemeyer, etc... And if you add in a struggling Big Z, injured Mark Prior and of course, the porcelain horse-Kerry Wood, something needs to change. [/b] And to those I would say, Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Marshall, Garland, Willis, Marshall, We can't even get the above-like Major league "READY" position players. At least the above made it to the ML and have had at least one great season (not including marshall). We can't get a position player to even sniff the field except cedeno. This thread is taking a tangent for which I did not intend CubbieRich. It's not about debating whether the pitching is now average or whether it has talent etc. It's about the fact that we've been infinitely more successful in producing ML-ready talent with respect to our pitching, than with respect to our hitting. At least one great season by all listed above, except Marshall. Zero great position player seasons in the last 10 years at least.