Soul

Trap game. Just as I had thought it would be. Dammit all.

Criminey. We're playing scared. I sort of thought this would happen. We're so lucky to not be down right now. And if we keep playing like this, we ARE going to be down.

Looks very much like the Jets have found something that works. That no-huddle is maddening, we can't rotate our DLine and we can't get to Pennington in time for those short passes. Not good.

This isn't going real well right now.

We so need a drive here to break this thing up. I hate that the Jets are pulling a Peyton Manning.

Todd was blitzing on that play though......others need to pick it up too. But obviously losing Mike Brown has been huge. Tillman couldn't even get off Washington. Looks bad.

This run defense is starting to flat out suck.

While I would agree that money is the primary consideration, there is the aspect that ND simply does not want to give up certain games. They feel the favor to Navy to give them an annual game is very important. They of course also would not want to take the USC game off the schedule. That's 2 of the 4 nonconference games already: and that doesn't address teams like Stanford and Boston College who the Irish want to play as much as possible, and also the 1 big game around the country that ND wants to play to get to as much of their fan base as possible. It would just be a really tough schedule fit for ND also, and there would have to be some tough choices and some problems with scheduling if they joined the Big 10-that and the money makes it pretty much impossible. Too bad. I agree it would be difficult, but with those 3 academy games on the schedule it really hurts the Irish in the new BCS-type scheme. Years ago, if the Irish were doing well they got the benefit of the doubt from the voters. But now, with the big conferences tagged and given preference by voters, I just think it's going to be next to impossible for the Irish to be in the title game unless they go undefeated. I think they should buckle down, make a few sacrifices, and joing the Big 10. But I agree it's probably not going to happen.

Why not? If Louisville really wants to become a big time program like they keep saying they want to, a move to the Big 10 would be the perfect opportunity to take it to the next level. They're not likely to be taken seriously when they play Cinci, Connecticut, South Florida (!), and Syracuse every single year. Those are programs that wouldn't likely fare well in the MAC in football. They're basically basketball schools with an afterthought football program. Rutgers made a move this year, and WV is decent----but it's hard to take them seriously either because they get to beat up on these programs every year too instead of playing tough games against quality, *primary* football programs.

Interesting. However, I'm thinking when the Cubs duel with the Red Sox over players, the Boston club will come out on top most of the time.

So then I guess Bonds will be refusing to claim the HR title because Aaron got his dingers in a 'different era' huh? Perhaps some of the great pitchers of yore should give up all their accolades too.....because after all, they pitched in a 'pitcher's era.' Come on. Sammy's numbers are his numbers. You all are just making excuses to hate on him because you feel betrayed by him. Face it. I feel betrayed by him too. But in life, you must take the good with the bad, and Sammy provided one heck of a lot of good along with his bad.

Last time I checked, the Big 10 doesn't have to do that-they just love tradition, and that's what they choose to do. They could play next week just like all the other conferences are if they choose to-blame the Big 10, not the NCAA. I wouldn't mind seeing a Big 10 Championship game. I think that would be a good idea for the Big 10 as well-they would just have to figure out what 12th team to add in order for them to be eligible to have a championship game. ND, but they won't cooperate ;) I wish they would. They are a perfect Big 10 team, with a natural rival already built in. They will never do it because of the money. But yes, I would LOVE to see a 12 team Big 10 (the Big 12?...oh wait) And have a 10 game conference schedule. PSU, O$U, Michigan, MSU, ND, IU in one division and UofI, Iowa, Wisconsin, Purdue, NU and Minnesota in the other. Yeah, the cash is too attractive with that individual TV deal they have. But from a fan perspective, it just seems to make so much sense.

Last time I checked, the Big 10 doesn't have to do that-they just love tradition, and that's what they choose to do. They could play next week just like all the other conferences are if they choose to-blame the Big 10, not the NCAA. I wouldn't mind seeing a Big 10 Championship game. I think that would be a good idea for the Big 10 as well-they would just have to figure out what 12th team to add in order for them to be eligible to have a championship game. ND, but they won't cooperate ;) I wish they would. They are a perfect Big 10 team, with a natural rival already built in.

Those Big East teams have those stats because they play in the Big East Hello? None of those ballclubs could hold a candle to the top Big 10, Pac 10, or SEC teams if they played those kind of conference schedules. They'd have been beat down by the end of October, and that's just a fact man. The biggest travesty in the world would be to watch a team that has played junk all year to stay fresh get a free ride to the national title game where they play a real ballclub that has had to go up against big program after big program all year long. I'd love a playoff system because it would finally once and for all reveal these 240-lb DT schools for the weak sisters that they are. Here's your national title game, soc: Ohio State -24 1/2 West Virgina Oh yeah, can't wait for that one!! The whole country will be putting their New Year's resolutions on hold to catch that! Please. Come on man, would you get real? Cuse hasn't been here, but could you tell him to get real too? Thanks.

Last time I checked, the Big 10 doesn't have to do that-they just love tradition, and that's what they choose to do. They could play next week just like all the other conferences are if they choose to-blame the Big 10, not the NCAA. I wouldn't mind seeing a Big 10 Championship game.

I'm actually pretty concerned about this game. I don't understand the Jets......and when I don't understand a ballclub, they're dangerous.

Louisville would forfeit at halftime. Just like they did against Rutgers.

Drugs are bad Soul. I would recommend quitting. I'm glad for you. You know, that you won't have to find out how much you overestimate those Big East ballclubs. :wink: You underestimate them FAR more than I may overestimate them. 62-0 OSU over WVU? Please. It did give me a good laugh though. We'll see once bowl season rolls around. That goes for Wisconsin too. Wow, that 62-0 really got under your skin didn't it. I was just using it to illustrate the point that it would be a blowout. You underestimate Wisconsin, my friend. With Stocco and Hill 100%, they'll have a good showing in the Cap One bowl, even if it's a SEC club.

Actually they have 1 automatic in now, so they will likely draw the USC/ND loser. I suppose anything could happen, but I'd be shocked if they can hang with ND/USC. That goes for any of the 3: Rutgers/Louisville/WVU.

Drugs are bad Soul. I would recommend quitting. I'm glad for you. You know, that you won't have to find out how much you overestimate those Big East ballclubs. :wink:

I would agree with that. If USC wins out, I think it should be Ohio State-USC. If Florida, ND, or Arkansas do-then it could be them, or it could be Michigan-both ways are reasonable. I still think there's a decent chance ND beats USC next week. We'll see. Going to be a good game. College football is so great this time of year.

I mean he's still .301/.352./.571 with 22 HRs in 98 ballgames. I sort of understand, but I think the market is getting suddenly more expensive than I expected it to.

Not exactly. If WVU wins out, their only loss will be to Louisville on the road. They'll have a legitimate case. As would Louisville for that matter. A legitimate case for what? :-k The National Title game. WVU over a school like Michigan, USC, or ND for the national title game? They wouldn't even be in the discussion. They lost a close game, on the road, to another very good opponent in Louisville. They should most definitely be in the discussion. I know Cuse has said it but I'm going to repeat it: the complete underestimation and disrespect for the Big East by some people is insane. Then with all due respect, you & cuse aren't thinking clearly. The only thing that is insane is that teams like that make it up the rankings when they are clearly not in the same league as the power programs in the country. Put WVU in the national title game and you have a 62-0 national embarrassment, while much more deserving programs play in lesser games as the country moans over not getting to see the best teams play for the title. Are you kidding me? Did you see the WVU/Georgia game last year? Have you even seen WVU or Louisville play this year? The statement of yours that I bolded might just be the most ludicrous and insane statement I have ever heard or read in my life. Now, I'm not guaranteeing that WVU/Louisville would beat OSU. But it wouldn't be a blowout. Not at all. It would be, but thankfully we won't have to see it. I watched both those clubs play this year quite a bit. They don't belong on the same field as OSU, Michigan, ND, USC for a national title. In fact, there isn't a Big East ballclub that could go through the SEC, Big 10, or Pac 10 with fewer than 3 conference losses. Like I said, thankfully the voters realize this and WVU won't be in the discussion, nor will Louisville or Rutgers. The fact that you think a WVU/OSU game wouldn't be a blowout in OSU's favor is simply insane. I appreciate your opinion and all, but I think it's out in left field with all due respect.

I still maintain that Dusty's complete and total lack of accountability led to that. It was NEVER this team's fault when something went wrong! It was always something else, be it the fans, the announcers, or the grass. At the time, Dusty was the man of "Dustiny" so I didn't focus on him but you're right, he showed that he had no interest in trying to run a reasonable ship. Alou though, criminey. At what point do you grow up and act like a man? 60? 70? It sure as heck wasn't his mid-30's. Most of us quit crying about every little problem after we get our first jobs in our early 20's. You know, don't bother learning to run the bases or anything like any little-leaguer would. But whine and cry when a fan tries to grab a foul ball. It's all OK though----Alou got his WS with the Marlins, no need to deliver for Chicago. God, I still have such angst for that guy in case you can't tell. :evil:

Honestly I'd put Wisconsin in the title game as soon as I'd put WVU there. Maybe even before.