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I'm getting a serious Brian Dopirak vibe reading about him. It's not a bad thing, since sometimes those guys pan out. Even if we have a Chris Davis-type outcome, that can be useful when under team control. What's more intriguing to me is this helps get a picture of the current trade market for hitters. I had resigned myself to the outcome that the Cubs wouldn't get a Top 100 prospect for any of Baez/Bryant/Rizzo, but Joc for Ball suggests that might not be the case.
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Welp, if you're pot-committed, might as well go for the gusto. ETA: Holy horsefeathers, they only drafted one HS pitcher. -
11 334 Ziehl, Gage Penfield HS (NY) P R/R HS SR Perfect Game Profile from 2020: 12 364 Banks, Teo Permian HS (TX) OF R/R HS SR Perfect Game Profile from 2020:
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With Wicks, I like his floor, but I'd put Davis, Preciado, Amaya, and Howard ahead of him in that order since I tend to lean upside when it comes to future value. I'm skeptical on Triantos since the Cubs historically have issues with developing contact-oriented hitters, be it because of scouting or coaching, so he'll probably lurk around my 10-15 until he starts seeing more advanced pitching. I'm even more skeptical with Franklin for similar reasons, although he at least seems like a safe bet to be a useful utility OF. In a vacuum, I like this draft since this system needed a boost and the Cubs did about as well as they could do in the circumstances. However, the more I think about this draft, the more intrigued I become with the pitchers, but the more skeptical I get with the hitters.
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Premium speed and defense to go with power, so even if he couldn't hit above the Mendoza Line, he still could be a useful bench piece as a defensive replacement and/or pinch runner. He fell for a reason, but even if he doesn't smooth out his K issues, he can still for make a solid 4th OF option.
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He also probably knows all the best spots for stone skippin' and muddin'.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the "Who?" portion of the draft. 6 184 Martin, Riley Quincy University (IL) P L/L 4YR 5S
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5 154 Spence, Liam Tennessee (TN) SS R/R 4YR SR There you go.
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This draft doesn't blow me away, but I like the fact that the Cubs decided to hone in on guys who can be described as, "He does X well enough to make the majors, and he has some upside." I don't necessarily think any of these guys are future All Stars, but they're the kinds of guys who seem likely to provide quality depth down the road, which every team needs.
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There's no way in hell they're going to be able to sign Solemeto, White, and Chandler, right? Right???
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Ah yes, time for the yearly reminder that everyone else in the Cubs' division gets an extra draft pick because they are actual mid-market teams, even though the Cubs spend like one...
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Hm. Wondering if the Pirates took Davis with the expectation that Solemeto would be waiting for them at the start of the 2nd. He's not supposed to be a difficult sign, but he has some leverage.
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Round 2 kicks off at 12 PM central time. Here is a list of MLB.com's best remaining prospects. Admittedly, I'm kind of pulling for the Cubs to pop Andrew Abbott after the conversation that was just had in this thread comparing him with Wicks. 8-) I've been of the opinion that the Cubs' system is sorely lacking in quality SP prospects (although the RP talent is awesome), so grabbing some high floor types with a bit of upside would be a nice way to bolster the farm. Anyone care to share their wishlists/unheralded types for today?
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Thank you Cardinals for taking McGreevy off the board.
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Oh goody, is this going to be one of those handshake agreement drafts where nearly every team decides to pass on and screw over any player who is asking for overslot money?
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2021 Draft Thread
Outshined_One replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Anyone willing to share any tidbits from Kiley McDaniel's mock that was posted to ESPN+? Curious to see what he thinks. -
Here's a still and quote from the focus group that was used in the design process of these hats:
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2020-21 Offseason Top Prospects Lists
Outshined_One replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Preciado and Caissie in the Top 10, with Mena and Santana in the Top 15, is at least some comfort from the Darvish trade. I know they all were basically lottery tickets when the trade was made, and I know the Cubs aren't exactly showcasing a Top 5 system right now, but it's a better outcome than I initially expected. -
That legitimately looked like "Cobs" at a quick glance. Holy hell that's an eyesore.
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This is the correct take. The frustrating thing about this offseason is how badly nearly every move they made has seemingly backfired on them. I got why they replaced Schwarber with Joc, and I understood in a vacuum why they traded Darvish and Caratini away the way they did, but holy cats does that looks absolutely awful in hindsight. Maybe they all would have been injured and unproductive if they were still with the Cubs, but having Schwarber's production in the OF with Darvish in the rotation and Caratini as backup C probably would have seen this team looking a hell of a lot better than what it is now. On top of that, I'm having a really difficult time seeing how this team can be competitive in 2022 at the rate things are going. Ugh.
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Only if you also compile a list of teams that failed to overcome 6 game deficits with half the season to go. Even at full strength and firing on all cylinders, this is a seriously flawed team. The offense and bullpen might be good enough to carry them into the playoffs in a weak division, but that's about the extent of it.
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The 2007/2008 team was so much more enjoyable than the 2003/2004 team for me. I mean, yeah, the 2003/2004 team had higher highs, but at least the 2007/2008 team didn't have anywhere near as many heart-breaking low points.
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We all know how this will go. They'll lose tonight in a scrappy way, like a 6-4 final score where they show some hustle and fight, and then they'll blow the Brewers out tomorrow on their way to a stretch where they win 8 out of 11 going into the break and confuse the hell out of everyone about whether or not this team is any good.
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I'm kind of tempted to see if the Cubs could somehow pull off a hybrid strategy, where they sell off bullpen pieces and try to acquire guys who'll be around in 2022/2023 for the rotation. The pen has been ridiculously good, but I have zero idea how long this is going to last and I'm always leery of injuries when it comes to this sort of use. However, the Cubs also seem to have some promising bullpen depth at higher levels of the minors who could get called up and succeed. If someone's willing to offer a high level prospect for Kimbrel, a pretty good prospect for Tepera, or slightly warmed over corpse for Brothers, I'd be interested in that deal. Conversely, the rotation is butt and looks to remain as such for the foreseeable future without a meaningful trade.
