Outshined_One

The difference between the average slider in Low A and the average slider in the majors is impressive in terms of velocity, break, and movement.

Yes, it would be outrageous. I don't care if he's the best prospect in this organization and a potential Top 20 prospect at the moment, you simply don't bring up a guy from Low A to the majors. The jump in the quality of pitching is unfathomable. It would destroy his confidence. As good as he is, even a top caliber prospect could not handle that kind of jump and be productive in the majors. Plus, you really do not want to screw around with his option clock and arbitration eligibility. If you want to talk up bringing up a hot bat from the minors that would be an unconventional move, think of someone like Tony Thomas or Marquez Smith. At least the jump from AA to the majors isn't nearly as insane as Low A to the majors.

No, but it definitely sets a market for him. Basically 2 top pitcing prospects and 2 PTBNL. Unfortunately, we dont have the 2 top pitching prospects. Wed have to see if Marshall and J jax would constitute that. If Shark didnt have that NTC, it could be a different story. Clayton Richard is a not a top pitching prospect. Pretty much this. Jackson + Marshall would measure up to Poreda + Richard pretty well.

That's pretty much spot-on. I wouldn't expect him to start competing for a starting spot until 2011, though. He still has work to do down in the minors and needs to sustain his success over the season.

Box Score Iowa won 3-2 Box Score CF S. Fuld 1/4, BB, R, 2B (8), E (1, fielding), Assist (2B) 1B J. Fox 1/3, BB, E (2, missed catch) LF J. Dubois 2/4, RBI, 2 2B (8), K C C. Robinson 1/4 RF D. Deeds 1/3, R, 2B (8), HBP PH K. Reynolds 0/1, K SP K. Hart 4 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 3/1 K/BB, HBP, 3-6 GO-FO RP V. Perkins 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2/1 K/BB, 3-0 GO-FO RP J. Berg 1 scoreless, 1 H, 2-1 GO-FO RP J. Stevens 1 perfect, 1/0 K/BB, 0-2 GO-FO RP B. Parker 1 perfect, 2/0 K/BB, 0-1 GO-FO Tennessee lost Game 1 of their DH 3-2 Box Score 2B T. Thomas 0/3, BB, K, E (8, throw) SS D. Barney 1/4, R 3B M. Smith 0/3, 2 K 1B R. Canzler 1/3 LF T. Wright 0/3 C W. Castillo 1/3, R, RBI, HR (3) SP HW Chen 6 scoreless, 4 H, 3/1 K/BB, 13-2 GO-FO RP B. Schlitter 1 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HR, 0-2 GO-FO RP A. Maestri 1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 2/0 K/BB, 0-1 GO-FO Tennessee lost Game 2 of their DH 6-1 Box Score 2B T. Thomas 0/2, 2 K 2B D. Barney 1/2 3B M. Smith 1/4, K DH R. Canzler 0/1, RBI, HBP LF T. Wright 2/3, Assist (2B) C S. Clevenger 2/3, 2B (3) CF B. Guyer 0/2, HBP SP J. Estrada 3.2 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 1/1 K/BB, HR, WP, HBP, 7-2 GO-FO RP J. Russell 2.1 scoreless, 3 H, 2/0 K/BB, 1-4 GO-FO RP J. Gaub 1 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 2/0 K/BB, 2 HR, 1-0 GO-FO Daytona PPD: Rain Peoria lost 14-4 Box Score 3B J. Harrison 0/3, BB 2B R. Flaherty 0/4, K DH J. Vitters 1/4, R, RBI, HR (9), 2 K CF K. Burke 1/4, R, RBI, HR (4), K 1B R. Ridling 1/4, R, K RF N. Perez 1/4, R, RBI, 3B (1), K, E (6, throw) SS J. Lake 1/3, K, 2 E (12, throw x 2) SP A. Cabrera 3.2 IP, 8 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 0/1 K/BB, HR, WP, 2 HBP, 6-4 GO-FO OVERALL: 1-3

Pretty highly thought of SS prospect, at least in the Cards org. Ahhh don't really follow any other minor league teams but ours. More of a utilityman type than anything else from what I've read.

I want Pujols to knock out the M now.

Well, maybe Jake Fox at 3B wouldn't be the worst idea in the world.

Dusty Baker finally figured out how to cast a hex on this team from afar.

Honestly, I'd be fine with giving the Cardinals three runs for Pujols hitting the sign like that. Hit the smallest letter too... should have been a x3 multiplier anyways. I'm also willing to give him symbolism points for hitting the Big Mac sign.

Honestly, I'd be fine with giving the Cardinals three runs for Pujols hitting the sign like that.

Wasn't quite The Natural, but it'll do.

I posted about it earlier in the thread. There's nothing stopping the White Sox from making him a PTBNL in the deal.

DAT CAT IS CRAZY

Seriously? I wonder if this means he's not explicitly in the deal, but could be selected from among a group of prospects as a PTBNL. No one's leaked the names the White Sox are offering yet. I'd be stunned if Beckham wasn't part of the deal. Poreda and Richard have been two names thrown around, but all of this information is coming from two sources I have my reasons to doubt (Gammons and Levine). Without more details, it's really hard to evaluate this trade. If it's just Poreda, Richard, and two Low A throw ins, this deal makes no sense from the Padres' end.

Seriously? I wonder if this means he's not explicitly in the deal, but could be selected from among a group of prospects as a PTBNL. No one's leaked the names the White Sox are offering yet.

It's not just about throwing out runners. Fox is very poor when it comes to things like calling games, blocking pitches in the dirt, and so on. He recently caught in-game again and had 2 passed balls to his name.

Vinny Del Negro is texting him as we speak.

Word is the players traded are Poreda, Richard, and two PTBNLs. I'm guessing one of those PTBNLs is Gordon Beckham. The other one might be someone like Dan Hudson.

Yesterday's series of pitchouts was a managerial masterpiece.

Starting tomorrow, Tennessee begins what has to be one of the worst stretches of games I've ever seen any team at any level undergo. From May 22nd to May 29th, Tennessee will play 12 games as a result of four double headers. What's worse is the fact that their next day off is June 10th. In other words, prepare to see a ton of pitcher movement in the next few days to accommodate Tennessee's rotation and bullpen needs.

Box Scores Iowa lost 9-2 Box Score CF S. Fuld 2/4, BB, 2B (7), CS (3) C J. Fox 1/4 LF J. Dubois 1/3, BB, RBI, 2B (6), K 1B D. Deeds 1/4, K 1B K. Reynolds 1/1 SP M. Atkins 4 IP, 6 H, 7 ER, 2/4, HBP, 3-7 GO-FO RP G. Reinhard 2.1 scoreless, 1 H, 3/0 K/BB, 2-1 GO-FO RP J. Ruhlman 1.1 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 1/2 K/BB, 2-1 GO-FO RP J. Waddell 1.2 perfect, 2/0 K/BB, 2-1 GO-FO Tennessee lost 8-2 Box Score 2B T. Thomas 0/4, K SS D. Barney 0/3, BB, K, E (7, throw) C S. Clevenger 2/4, K, E (2, throw) LF R. Canzler 0/4 3B M. Smith 2/4, 2 R, RBI, 2B (7), HR (3), K, E (5, fielding) CF B. Guyer 1/3, RBI, 2B (7) SP M. Mateo 3.1 IP, 10 H, 6 ER, 2/1 K/BB, 2 HR, 6-2 GO-FO RP D. Cales 2 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 4/1 K/BB, HR, 2-0 GO-FO RP J. Muyco 1 scoreless, 1 H, 1/1 K/BB, 0-2 GO-FO Daytona Game 1 Cancelled: Wet Grounds Daytona Game 2 Cancelled: Wet Grounds Peoria won 4-1 Box Score LF J. Harrison 2/4, R, RBI, HR (2), SB (7), Assist (Home) 2B R. Flaherty 1/3, BB, R, K 3B J. Vitters 1/4, R, 2 RBI, HR (8), K DH K. Burke 2/4, R, K, SB (5) 1B R. Ridling 2/4, RBI, 2B (11), K RF N. Perez 1/4, K SS J. Lake 0/4, 2 K, E (11, throw) C M. Brenly 0/2, BB CF D. Rundle 0/3, 2 K SP C. Archer 5 scoreless, 1 H, 8/1 K/BB, WP, 1-7 GO-FO RP K. Kreier 2 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 2/1 K/BB, HR, 2-2 GO-FO RP R. Buchter 1 IP, 2 H, 0/2 K/BB, 1-1 GO-FO RP C. Huseby 1 scoreless, 1 H, 1/0 K/BB, 2-0 GO-FO OVERALL: 1-2

He looks 12.

I'm debating whether Lou's over-thinking is any worse than Dusty Baker's over-thinking. Or, rather, lack of thinking instead of over-thinking for both.

Wouldn't have gotten it, imo. STOP GIVING THEM PITCHOUTS YOU FREAKING IDIOT.