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That's something that will be figured out when they're closer to a deal, but I'd read the opposite and that it's unlikely to continue, at least in the 10th inning. I think the last thing I saw was that it might happen later than the 10th inning. I think both that and the 7-inning doubleheaders (also said to not be continuing) are abominations, but if forced to only eliminate one I think I'd eliminate the doubleheaders. And I'd keep both of them to get rid of the 14 and 16 team playoff proposals

Care to share what you found? yeesh guys, it's Caden Braden-McFayden Pretty sure its Stephen Hawking

Speaking of the Vikings

One of my favorite things about this hire is seeing Vikings fans who last week were bragging about how Minnesota's situation was better than the Bears in every way are now throwing a fit

I don't necessarily like it but I'd prefer it over the current setup, especially your point on strategy. What about: both teams get a possession, the first team to receive the ball is only allowed to go for 2 if they score a TD, while the second team can kick an XP. Afterwards its sudden death. Gives the kicking team a slight advantage in the event the receiving team does not convert the 2 point conversion, but it doesn't give them too much of an advantage because the receiving team gets a sudden death 2nd possession. I'm sure there are other downsides besides "games will go on forever" and 'too gimmicky', just spitballing ideas.

I'll take all the fluff I can get but I'm pretty sure I was reading the same stuff about Pace after he was hired I don't know if I ever recalled any analytic fluff from Pace. True, I just meant fluff in general. People saying they've worked with Pace and how sharp he is and what a fantastic hire it was for the Bears. The analytic praise is promising.

I'll take all the fluff I can get but I'm pretty sure I was reading the same stuff about Pace after he was hired

ugh. we tried this already with fox/pace. it went so well. (i'm not saying caldwell is fox - but specifically that approach of forcing an old guy on a young exec. i'd be much happier with caldwell than i was with fox) Right it sounds exactly what they are trying to do here, per DBB's tweet. You'd think they'd learn from their mistakes but I guess that's why the Bears are a dumpster fire. I also like Poles as the GM hire but unless he's already been on board with Caldwell then I question his decision making if he goes along with this

Bills clearly collapsed allowing a score in 13 seconds. There has never been a more "back and forth" game in NFL history. YOu could just as well say the Chiefs collapsed by letting the Bills score a TD in a minute. Or that the Bills "collapsed" by letting Hill score a 70 yard TD with less than 2 minutes remaining. But more to the point, I don't give a FLYING horsefeathers HOW they got to overtime. Make overtime not be a luck-sack let down. Never been a more back and forth playoff game maybe. Ravens/Vikings in 2013 featured 36 combined points in the last 2:07, vs. 25 in the last 1:54 in this one https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/331208033

I would think a gopher person or a black car would pick Poles up, not the person who is essentially the owner of the team. I wonder if this is an overture to make Ryan feel like he's their guy.

That honestly felt like a Bulls game from last year. Offense was so disjointed down the stretch

Would sure be nice if we didn’t blow a 28 point 3rd quarter lead. Just a suggestion

Of course Zach is back but now no DeRozan and possibly no Vuc

If they go with Caldwell I guess it would be a bridge type of situation where the Bears want to get the franchise headed in the right direction. I don't necessarily agree with that strategy but that has to be what they are thinking. Either way, the Bears seem to be doing the opposite of what the most successful franchises are doing these days. The 4 conference championship coaches are all offensive guys, 3 of them young offensive guys. But the Bears are looking at old dudes with a heavy concentration of guys with a defensive background. Isn't it what many of us were expecting? The youngish hot offensive coordinator approach didn't work with Nagy so, lets go old and/or defensive background maybe that'll work. I'd like to think we're all overreacting but, such stupidity in approaches is ingrained within the McCaskey's. Maybe that approach didn't work because you hired a guy with a handful of games of playcalling experience and 1 year as an OC and then previously hired a guy out of the CFL who hadn't coached in the NFL in any capacity for a decade. I know you arent saying this, just fighting back on the logic the Bears are probably employing. I feel like I'm being held hostage by a terrible organization.

If they go with Caldwell I guess it would be a bridge type of situation where the Bears want to get the franchise headed in the right direction. I don't necessarily agree with that strategy but that has to be what they are thinking. Either way, the Bears seem to be doing the opposite of what the most successful franchises are doing these days. The 4 conference championship coaches are all offensive guys, 3 of them young offensive guys. But the Bears are looking at old dudes with a heavy concentration of guys with a defensive background.

The only thing I'd say about Quinn is I remember reading that he has some really solid assistants lined up but can't remember if I've actually seen any names.

I don't hate that and I think it would drive more teams to win in regulation. I can live with more ties in that scenario

I'm not a fan of any of those names but of them I like Caldwell the most. Definitely not exciting but has an offensive background, is a players coach, and has led good offenses, though he seems to be a low ceiling guy based on his tenures with the Colts and Lions.

I could see it if the other team picks the 1 yard line. Even for an elite offense like the Chiefs it can be hard to get out of your own end zone and if they can't get a 1st, suddenly the other team gets great field position. Also its not sudden death so it helps the team that gets the ball 2nd unless the other team goes on a 99 yard drive that eats up the entire 7:30 Ok I guess I’m just confused about this, so help me out. Team A picks the 1 yard line. If Team B defers does Team A get the ball at that spot wherein they’d only have to go 1 yard to score? That’s how I read that proposal, thus my confusion about why a team would ever defer. Team A wins the toss Team B chooses the 1 yard line Team A can choose whether to take the ball at their own 1 yard line OR have Team B start at their own 1. Rest of the game proceeds as normal.

Also these seem like names that a 80 year old former NFL executive who hasn't worked in the league for the better part of a decade would pick.

I don't know a ton about the specific expected value from various drive starting points, but I would guess that there's a point where the expected points from each team's first drive tip in the favor of the team without the ball to start because of field position. And with the time it takes for 2 drives you'd be signing up to likely be ahead with only a couple minutes left at most. The prisoner's dilemma of one team picking spot and the other team picking ball would keep that advantage from being too extreme though, if you pick the 1 your opponent is gonna stick you there, but if you pick the 10? The 15? Probably closer to a coin flip(again, with the caveat that I know nothing about football probabilities) Yea, this sounds right. Probably would end up being highly opponent dependent, but if I'm facing Mahomes or Allen I'm probably chosing the 1 yard line and fully expecting them to take the ball. But we'd have zero data the first year. It would be great to have decisions with no conventional wisdom to back up the choice. I also think that it gives the other team at least some control over the outcome of the game, being able to choose the yard line. If they are too aggressive and get stuck with the ball and ultimately lose, its on the coach for making the wrong choice. Compared to a coin flip which is literally random luck and no human involvement.

why would a team ever NOT take the ball, regardless of where it is spotted. I can't think of any scenarios. I could see it if the other team picks the 1 yard line. Even for an elite offense like the Chiefs it can be hard to get out of your own end zone and if they can't get a 1st, suddenly the other team gets great field position. Also its not sudden death so it helps the team that gets the ball 2nd unless the other team goes on a 99 yard drive that eats up the entire 7:30

Ugh, defensive guys and Caldwell. Ill figure out how to get behind whoever they hired but I'm not a big fan of these names. Maybe they pick the right guy and finally turn the corner, but these seem like guys a crappy organization like the Bears would hire.

What context are you hearing it in? The question was about Payton's future with NO. The speculation is him possibly retiring and the Saints have no reason to let him out of his contract to join another team unless he forced his way out but as has been discussed on the internet, Payton will probably be linked to Chicago if he leaves NO I know its gasping at straws but this GM/coaching search is boring me right now.