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  1. I agree with what's been said. If I had to choose, I'd go for a shortstop and take my chances with the pitching.
  2. I can tell you that the media in NY is ripping him to shreds. Local tv news is always the most tame, but they talked about it. Radio guys are shredding him. All the blowhards who blew hard on Bonds are blowing just as hard on Roger. So far. Good. I admittedly haven't heard much because I'm busy at work- but on the way in this morning Peter Gammons, in the portion I heard, is very slow to judgemnent, almost blowing off Clemens' culpability. But, I didn't hear the whole thing either.
  3. This is a heck of a topic and will be interesting to watch. I'm one of those who's wondered aloud whether Bonds' race plays a part in his villification. And I do stress "part" because his jerkness and "assault on the most hallowed records in all of sports" as Bob Costas would put it, certainly play a role. If people call for Clemens' 300 wins to be wiped from the record books and talk about how he has basically taught young kids everywhere that it's o.k. to cheat in order to excel in life and whatnot, it'll be pretty obvious that race is not that big of a factor. However, if people say that they don't believe any of these accusations at all, or that he probably just took them to recover from injuries, or that he's never lied about it (I'm sure he made comments about Canseco citing him in his book - I think he was talking about suing for libel, etc), then I'll continue to wonder about race.
  4. You know what I think of when I see Roger's name? Him throwing the broken bat at Piazza. The guy was probably juiced to the gills. 8-[
  5. But they can help you hit a ball further. The rest of your post I agree with.
  6. Why? I don't get the assumption that steroids make you good. They make you capable of building body mass (muscle) faster than you would before. They don't increase your ability to see the ball, or your hand-eye coordination. They make your body grow. And for that matter - someone said earlier that roids dont make you fat (in connection to kerry Wood) and I disagree with that. When I was younger I had to take some medicine for my asthma that had some kind of steroid in it and I shot up in weight really quickly. Granted - The roids these guys were taking probably only affected muscles - but I'm no doctor and I don't know exactly how roids work. On the assumption that steroids make you good- you get stronger. Being stronger helps in just about any sport. True, but you have to be able to hit the ball first. Neifi wasn't too good at that. Think how bad he would have been without the help. Seriously.
  7. Why? I don't get the assumption that steroids make you good. They make you capable of building body mass (muscle) faster than you would before. They don't increase your ability to see the ball, or your hand-eye coordination. They make your body grow. And for that matter - someone said earlier that roids dont make you fat (in connection to kerry Wood) and I disagree with that. When I was younger I had to take some medicine for my asthma that had some kind of steroid in it and I shot up in weight really quickly. Granted - The roids these guys were taking probably only affected muscles - but I'm no doctor and I don't know exactly how roids work. On the assumption that steroids make you good- you get stronger. Being stronger helps in just about any sport.
  8. I was told there would be no math.
  9. In short, it's a diversionary witch hunt to make the public ignore how the MLB is dragging its feet and doing jack squat to actually be proactive with this and attempt to clean up the game. It's much easier to point at stuff that already happened and nobody can do anything about and go "SHAAAAAAAAAAAAME" as opposed to actually trying to crack down in the here and now. I think we'll see that the cracking down on the here and now will be difficult. I've said before, the Olympics have very stringent testing and harsh penalties, yet PED use is rampant in those sports.
  10. Why do I feel like I've seen it before?
  11. I agree. Even their contracts that I think are not so hot- Pudge, Rogers, Shef- two of those come off the books for '09, money that can be used for Miggy's arbitration and then some. As overrated as Willis is, he's not a horrible, horrible pitcher. And they haven't committed anything long term to him. They scored almost 900 runs last year with Shef hurt a lot and Brandon Inge in the lineup a lot and Craig Monroe some. Even when Ordonez comes back to earth next year, the lineup is gonna get on base a heck of a lot more than they did two years ago when they went to the Series.
  12. I read an article a long time ago and wish I could find it now where a team physician supposedly told his players and coaching staff that he could prescribe them moderate doses of steroids that they could take under his supervision and put on 20 pounds of muscle without even doing anything else different than their normal weight training. This was back in the '80s.
  13. Don't mean to argue, but the testing regime won't completely stop it. As I've said over and over, it happens in the Olympics and they supposedly have the toughest testing. And, for every Marion Jones caught, there's probably a dozen that don't get caught. I'm way more pessimistic that anything can completely stop it, but you're right that it should slow it the heck down a bit.
  14. Good point. While I don't always understand the harsh judgements levied on players, I agree that it's worthwhile to know in this regard. A young player with a couple of unexpectedly good years is gonna hurt your team if he's signed because of that and due to testing might be hard-pressed to repeat it. As much as I think baseball players get a raw deal in the PED world, I still am curious who was on and who wasn't, and general managers sure should be. I'm going to edit to add that from what I gather about steroids in particular, players who used it "properly" (I only mean using with weight training - not that there's a proper reason for an athlete to use) and made strength gains will retain a portion of that strength even though they theoretically can no longer use steroids due to testing in MLB. Let me go on to say that a surprising number of high school athletes take steroids (which is ironic, since their natural testosterone levels are already high) to get bigger and stronger in order to get an athletic college scholarship. That's been happening for years. Anyway, I guess I'm saying that some who did it before MLB was strict enough, or before they got to MLB at all, will retain a portion of those gains and benefit from their usage without ever being in danger of testing positive.
  15. I think baseball catches some crap because they're slow to act, yes, but it amazes me the level of contempt people have for baseball players who do them as opposed to athletes in other sports. I'm not trying to nitpick or be a jerk, but I don't think the PGA has drug testing. PEDs don't have to be steroids either, an illegal drug that could calm nerves and get rid of the yips could help a pro golfer, in theory. I mostly agree here. I think baseball players are paying the price for their union fighting so hard to keep drug testing of any sort out and I think they spilled over into PEDs. Now that there's testing, though, I don't see the difference like others seem to. I.E., you get 4 games in the NFL, don't you get 50 in MLB? A similar portion of the season? I always sound like a steroid apologist in these type discussions, but it just seems ridiculous to me that people are wondering if the Patriots season is tainted in the NFL because of "spygate" but not because their all-pro safety was on the gas. If that shoe was on baseball's foot, it would be a much bigger story. Maybe for the reasons you give, I just don't think that makes it right.
  16. I'll jump on the bandwagon of the last two posts. I remember sometime around the Congressional Hearing when people were all saying baseball should test as strictly as the Olympics. Guess what? The Olympics may have the highest number of PED users of any competitions. This is a really tough issue because you want to be able to enforce a policy restricting use of illegal drugs, but we are at a point to where every athlete in every sport could very well be "on something". I'll bet a shiny quarter Lance Armstrong used PEDs, usage is far more rampant in the NFL, and several people you see at Gold's are on the gas. None of that makes it o.k., but I do agree that baseball players are villified far more than anyone else for this sort of thing.
  17. Detroit Free Press says Cubs are sending 2 million in the deal.
  18. I think you and I were high on Infante when I first started posting here.
  19. I'll write-in Andre Woodson because I'm a homer.
  20. I remeber liking Todd when he filled in for an injured Sammy for a short while, but I don't remember anyone here wanting him to have the starting job. Seems like there was way more Dubois "love".
  21. Maybe it's more for putting Wood in the closer role.
  22. Andy Pettitte = not a true Yankee.
  23. Thanks for the replies. At least now I know my payment didn't bounce!
  24. Is anyone else having problems since the switchover?
  25. Was Texas even considered a player then? I remember the Mets as being the leaders but the details are fuzzy regarding the other "leading" teams. I think Texas should go after him now. Heck, they were already paying 8 million not to play for them. If they offer him 25, they're only paying 17 more than they were going to for the next three years anyway. :D
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