Contrary to popular belief not all Bama fans are as bad as you make us. Every fanbase have those that embarrassed their favorite team but that doesn't mean every Bama fan is an idiot and nutcase. Cause I can definately point to certain Tennessee fans I know (here in Bama land) that are some of the MOST ignorant and idiotic I've ever met. Trust me, Florida fans makes it easier to hate (because of their fanaticism of the QB whose name shall never be mentioned again) then Bama simply because of Spurrier. But hey if you want to hate Bama fine, because I rather be hated which means Bama is recognizable, over being loved and unheard, ie like TCU or Cincinnati. So as long as the hate is legitimate because Bama is constantly in the top 5 and battling for a national championship then I can live with the anti-Bama crowd. Besides where was this hate when Bama was down between 2000-2007? . Yankees and Phillies fans are to me what Bama is to you. I don't hate Tennessee, but there are certain coaches and fans that make it hard not to hate Tennessee. Besides if you want to talk good ole fashion football with good Bama fans go over to Tidefans. That site has several Tenn fans already on it and we talk good football talk without it getting itno it. I invite you to put aside your biased for Bama for a few minutes and check it out. Warning it is a bit Bama biased, but non Bama fans (trolls excluded) are not talked down to and is treated with respect. You don't have to sign up just go to the site a read a few threads. It may not change your perception of Bama fans but at least you would know there are those who are not stupid, ignorant and redneck. RF, it's like this... I've heard Bammers whine and blame the NCAA for all of their troubles, including calling them the NZAA, all because Bama cannot keep their nose clean. Most Bammers defend being called Repeat Serial Violators by claiming the NCAA is out to get them and they are being unfairly targeted, or they issue subpoenas to coaches who turn them in for cheating, or they deflect and point out all the other cheating that is *obviously* occurring, though not being punished. It's like... seriously, your team cheated. Deal with it and stop making pathetic excuses. That's issue #1. #2 is the sheer arrogance that I hear every single day here. No opponent will ever keep it within 4 TD's, and when they do, it's simply because Bama played poorly- never that the opponent played well. The chest pounding over Bammers first win to break the 6 year losing streak to Auburn was probably the first time I really felt that Bammers are pretty delusional as a group. There is almost no such thing as a team pushing Bama. Teams only play well or keep it close if Bama has an off day. #3 is Finebaum. He's just a sideshow, but his callers are top flight, lipstick wearing, keep-a-list-of people-you-want-to-kill psychos. Truth is though, I have several freinds who are Bammers, and they are class acts. The Bear's family are good people. The Love's are good people. I was even the speaker at something in Tuscaloosa tonight, and the students were kind and very complimentary. Not all are bad (just as not all fan of any fan base are one way or another...) Honest truth is that I know UT fan are not much better than Bammers, but having lived in both places, I would rate Bammers as only above UK Hoops fans in terms of being tolerable. Sorry.