Richmond did beat Duke a couple of years ago, but Duke has gotten a lot better. There have been dreams of a bowl game this year for the first time in a long time. I would be very surprised. When I raised the possibility of Richmond over Duke, it actually wasn't a slight at Duke. I raised it because I know how good Richmond is. I saw Duke play 3 times last year, and nearly beat the 4th best team in the Big Ten (on that real [expletive] ACC Internet station- forgot what it's called). Cutcliffe is a real solid coach; he reminds me of Grobe. Call it blind faith, but I'm still intrigued by UNI over Iowa. I'm skeptical Iowa will be more than an average Big 10 team to begin with; and if Moeaki (sp?) and Hampton don't play, I don't see Iowa scoring getting to 25 on UNI. With that said, UNI would have to play a near-perfect game, and turnovers for them would be detrimental. Iowa has played UNI 3 times since 1995, and has scored on average 48 points. you dont think Iowa will score 25? Northern Iowa has a lot more talent now though than they did in either of those 3 years. Farley changed the talent level in that program. In the only year Farley was a coach where they played Iowa, Iowa did win 45-21, but Iowa had a ridiculous point differential that year. They finished 7-4 (with bowl loss to Florida), but lost their 3 closest games including one on a fluke onside kick (Northwestern game). Point being while Iowa did take UNI behind the woodshed, it was one of Iowa's better teams that was a typical 9-3/10-2 team. If Hampton is out, I don't see much of a running game for Iowa. And if the TE Moeaki (sp?) is out, the passing game doesn't have the running game to set itself up for like last year, and there are less weapons. I don't think the Defense will be as good this year either. They lost a near-shut down CB, and some vital DE's. I'm just skeptical of Iowa as a whole, and don't see them better than 4-4 in the Big Ten. I think Iowa is 14 PTS better on paper with those reported injuries to the TE and Hampton, but I'll bank on an upset and pick UNI.