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5/19 sox (Danks) @ Cubs (Dempster) FOX 6:15 PM
Bryants Disco Ball replied to ctcf's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
Exactly. He's obviously our best player and favorite player. And at 22, he's so far ahead of where he should be. But if he never develops a willingness to take walks, he will never reach his full potential. I don't care much if he hits .300 every year if he sports a 330 on-base percentage. -
5/19 sox (Danks) @ Cubs (Dempster) FOX 6:15 PM
Bryants Disco Ball replied to ctcf's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
OK. More disappointed. -
5/19 sox (Danks) @ Cubs (Dempster) FOX 6:15 PM
Bryants Disco Ball replied to ctcf's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
I'm sort of sad that Starlin Castro refuses to take walks. -
Who's the dude with sunglasses to the right (our left) of you and Kerry? ;) The best part is that Vance looks like Sly Stallone's kid in "Over the Top."
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Andre Dawson and CJ Wilson and countless other examples of players choosing to go where they want to go. I bet I can come up with more examples of the highest bidders winning. Which means in this discussion, I'd have a higher percentage of being right that had the Cubs really, really wanted Pujols or Fielder, they'd have them right now. Did you not see the contacts that each was given? There aren't enough reallys in the world for them to have thought that to be a good idea. And I believe Theo knew it would end up that way the whole time. Sure, he'd have been interested at a good price. But my man Theo is too smart to think it was going to happen. He also knew he had a guy better than both already at first.
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My argument didn't really have anything to do with jersey's. Just your contention that you knew the Cubs offseason plans were to sign nobody really good. Gotcha.
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Andre Dawson and CJ Wilson and countless other examples of players choosing to go where they want to go. I bet I can come up with more examples of the highest bidders winning. Which means in this discussion, I'd have a higher percentage of being right that had the Cubs really, really wanted Pujols or Fielder, they'd have them right now. Them not wanting to outbid the ridiculous contracts that they got (which would be farrrrr more ridiculous in the NL) doesn't mean that they didn't want those players and wouldn't have put up a huge sum of money to get them. Of course, agreed. What I'm saying is that Cubs management probably was smart enough to know that the contracts were going to get out of control. Sure, had they come at a really nice price, Theo would have been all over them. But I am confident in saying that I feel he knows how the market works, and he knew both players likely would be out of the range he'd want. Thus, in his mind, he never probably thought he was going to be a major player for either.
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By the way, Yu's bid was won in December. Which means Kerry Wood knew the Cubs weren't getting him when he re-signed in January.
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Andre Dawson and CJ Wilson and countless other examples of players choosing to go where they want to go. I bet I can come up with more examples of the highest bidders winning. Which means in this discussion, I'd have a higher percentage of being right that had the Cubs really, really wanted Pujols or Fielder, they'd have them right now.
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No, because Theo is about value. And had Yu come at the price that he felt was good, he would have signed him. But I'd bet more that Theo knew his bid wouldn't win than it would. Again, I have no prove, but I feel Theo is the smartest man in all of baseball. So, I want to believe he realized he wasn't going to get Yu and what it would take, but certainly wanted to put in a bid in case fellow GM's were idiots.
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Clearly, you know this. That's why they bid on Darvish. That's why they reportedly made offers to both Pujols and Fielder (both of whom they were, unsurprisingly, outbid on because AL teams have more leeway to go nuts on guys like that). But, since it didn't happen, that was never in the plans. The Cubs didn't sign any of them. Had they wanted to, they could have. That's my evidence. Where is yours? I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. At all. Do you have a story to prove this?
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That doesn't refute the idea that the Cubs weren't trying to sign them. You can certainly argue that we don't know for certain either way, but I don't think it's somehow been refuted that they didn't really try. Which is all I did. Listen, I'm sorry if I didn't soften my statement by saying that the Cubs might have tried to want to sort of get these guys, but they just lost out on them. The Cubs didn't sign Pujols or Fielder. And it's my opinion that Theo knew they weren't going to sign them for what the market was going to pay them. Sorry, I don't have an actual quote that says that. I just think that. The bottom line remains: I don't believe Kerry Wood really thought the Cubs were going to add a bunch of pieces after he signed in the middle of January.
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Clearly, you know this. That's why they bid on Darvish. That's why they reportedly made offers to both Pujols and Fielder (both of whom they were, unsurprisingly, outbid on because AL teams have more leeway to go nuts on guys like that). But, since it didn't happen, that was never in the plans. The Cubs didn't sign any of them. Had they wanted to, they could have. That's my evidence. Where is yours?
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I don't think he saw this team being so bad so early. There was still hope at the time they brought him back that they would actually go out and bring in players to help the team. But they are winning less than 40% of their games and he's been terrible, so I think that plays a part. Respect your opinion, but will have to totally disagree. I'm quite certain he knew the team wasn't going to be good, and no, there wasn't much hope that when he signed that they were going to bring in players to help considering it was already the middle of January. there were still players out there to be signed Yes, but none that the Cubs planned to sign. As much as the fans might have been hoping that Prince Fielder would be signed or some stud pitcher was going to be traded for, that was never the plan this offseason. I'm just confident that on Jan. 13, with spring training a month away, that Kerry Wood did not re-sign with the Cubs thinking that a bunch of pieces were soon going to be in place for this team to be any sort of good.
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I don't think he saw this team being so bad so early. There was still hope at the time they brought him back that they would actually go out and bring in players to help the team. But they are winning less than 40% of their games and he's been terrible, so I think that plays a part. Respect your opinion, but will have to totally disagree. I'm quite certain he knew the team wasn't going to be good, and no, there wasn't much hope that when he signed that they were going to bring in players to help considering it was already the middle of January.
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There has to be something going on that we don't know about. My guess is he has been dealing with a lot more arm/shoulder pain than he is willing to let on. I'm guessing it has to do with being bad and being on a bad team. He knew going into the season that he was going to be on a bad team. As for being bad, yes he has been bad but it has been more lack of control than anything. I'm pretty sure if his arm was feeling strong he would have wanted to work through his control issues and finish the season rather than just quit. Agreed. Your theory makes sense, too, considering he's already been on the DL once this season. He might just feel like his body can't go through a whole season anymore.
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The interesting thing to me about Kerry retiring is that he doesn't appear to have lost his stuff, and he's not so old that he can't still be good for a few more years (see Dempster). The only thing is that he was walking guys a lot this season, but that might not have been the case over the long haul.
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I no longer have to wonder what it would be like to have nine Jeff Francour's in my lineup.
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Aramis isn't hitting very well either (though still better than Stewart) so I doubt that would have made much of a difference. Also, you mentioning Cashner prompted me to look up his stats. He's got a 3.68 ERA but a 1.705 WHIP. He's had no control as he's averaging 8 BB/9. Sure, but that's assuming that they would've gotten off to similar starts here. Once you change one thing, you change everything. That said, tis a hypothetical that has no meaning since it doesn't matter. I understand what you are saying, but A-Ram has gotten off to the same start the last two years as well. I think it could be assumed he'd have sucked so far for us, too.
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Anybody know who is contractually obligated
Bryants Disco Ball replied to Ivy.n.Denver's topic in General Baseball Talk
He did. It is no longer part of his contract. -
The Cubs are very difficult to watch when they fall behind by a few runs early in a game. They don't have comeback ability and they can't really be aggressive on the basepaths. Give the Cubs a 1-0 or 2-0 lead through the first three innings, and they look like a legit baseball team.
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I love that because of the baseball thinking that a certain pitcher must be used in the ninth, that we are going to lose a game that we had no business losing.
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POSIT: epstein has the best executive position in sports
Bryants Disco Ball replied to treebird's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
That isn't even close to true. It's ridiculous to even suggest that is the case. Agreed. That's not true. Perhaps "Do things the right way, be patient and get sustained success" is new, though. -
That's my feeling as well. If you were confident enough in his sustained ability in the offseason, you shouldn't feel any differently right now. I'm only a role player on this board, and bragging is not cool, but I just wanted to point out that I tried to tell everyone we didn't want Pujols. Not that any of you still agree, but I figured I'd brag now and let you have a chance to rip on me later if Pujols wins an MVP. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=58762&start=1350 Start of page 55 of the thread. I was on fire. Just remember that when anyone complains that we didn't spend any money this offseason, a large number of people here wanted us to spend it on Pujols. If by the end of this season you would rather we not have signed Pujols, it's too late. You have him on the books for $30 million for the next seven to 10 years.
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Who cares about Fielder? Many people wanted the Cubs to sign Albert Pujols. Oh.