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Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. And you think it's okay to make up a complete personality workup of the guy and accuse him of negative personality traits based on nothing but a one-sentence sketch of his background? make up? no. come to a conclusion based on what you know about a person? yeah. -
I think you are absolutely wrong there. Hendry would be keeping Pie and probably would be giving him a better shot at winning a starting job. I am a fan of Hendry, but one of his faults is that he lets the managers dictate to him instead of vice versa. As I posted before, Lou is okay with young players as long as they produce immediately. If they don't, they're banished forever. that's a really good point.
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Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort. just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy. to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded. -
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cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. It doesn't appear to be that tough of a mind to blow. burn! really guy? Yes, really. You say something stupid, and then insult the people who call you on your stupidity, then act like your baseless reasoning in the only logical explanation, and really, it doesn't say much for your mental accuity. insult people? WHAT?! my god. untie you panties my man. -
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cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. And your proof of this is? this isn't a court of law. i'm not out to prove anything. again, just having a discussion. clearly there is no proof. it's MY OPINION. we don't even need proof. we just need you to back up your claims with some kind of logic. you've provided no reason whatsoever as to why you think he didn't work hard enough. none. until you can let us know why you think that, i'm just going to assume that you don't like him and you're looking for ways to trash him. actually he was my favorite cub for a few years. surprised? i hated to see him go down. hated it. it's not like he didn't give me an autograph and now i hate him or something stupid like that. -
Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. It doesn't appear to be that tough of a mind to blow. burn! really guy? -
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cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
take a step back. i'm not trying to spin anything. just having a conversation. maybe you're trying to win an argument. if so, okay. kinda strange, but okay. i'm just discussing baseball, the game i love. It's hard to maintain a conversation when you just keep repeating ignorant statements. i'm not opposed to you leaving the discussion if you're having a tough time keeping up. Keeping up with what? Your knuckle dragging idiocy? You have said the same dumb thing over and over, that the reason prior hasn't returned from injury for 5 years is because he hasn't tried to return from injury for 5 years. wow, strike a nerve? relax man -
Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. And your proof of this is? this isn't a court of law. i'm not out to prove anything. again, just having a discussion. clearly there is no proof. it's MY OPINION. -
Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Yeah, the logical reason was Dusty Baker freaking abused the crap out of him, the Cubs misdiagnosed him and let him pitch through injuries, make them worse, and creating new ones. agreed! what i'm saying is that his effort/workout regimen/whatever was a contributor to that as well. denying that just blows my mind. -
Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
take a step back. i'm not trying to spin anything. just having a conversation. maybe you're trying to win an argument. if so, okay. kinda strange, but okay. i'm just discussing baseball, the game i love. It's hard to maintain a conversation when you just keep repeating ignorant statements. i'm not opposed to you leaving the discussion if you're having a tough time keeping up. -
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cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
That is a really stupid thing to say. I mean incredibly ignorant. Pitchers can't commit themselves to not get hurt, or get back from injuries. hahaha, no it's not. you're essentially saying that effort in recovering from an injury means nothing. THAT's the stupid thing to say. you don't really believe that, now do you? What you seem to be ignoring is that Mark Prior didn't have a single injury that has persisted for five years. not ignoring that at all. so why, then, does he have so many injuries? just because? or is there perhaps a more logical reason? what are your thoughts, i'm curious. because he was mean to the media sometimes if you want to have an adult conversation, let me know. otherwise, go grab lunch or something. -
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cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
That is a really stupid thing to say. I mean incredibly ignorant. Pitchers can't commit themselves to not get hurt, or get back from injuries. hahaha, no it's not. you're essentially saying that effort in recovering from an injury means nothing. THAT's the stupid thing to say. you don't really believe that, now do you? umm. he's not the one that said it had nothing to do with it. YOU are the one that implied it was the ONLY thing that mattered, which is just dumb. we all understood what you meant and now you're trying to spin your way out of it because of how ridiculous it was. if that's what you inferred then you need to read slower. -
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cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
That is a really stupid thing to say. I mean incredibly ignorant. Pitchers can't commit themselves to not get hurt, or get back from injuries. hahaha, no it's not. you're essentially saying that effort in recovering from an injury means nothing. THAT's the stupid thing to say. you don't really believe that, now do you? What you seem to be ignoring is that Mark Prior didn't have a single injury that has persisted for five years. not ignoring that at all. so why, then, does he have so many injuries? just because? or is there perhaps a more logical reason? what are your thoughts, i'm curious. -
Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
take a step back. i'm not trying to spin anything. just having a conversation. maybe you're trying to win an argument. if so, okay. kinda strange, but okay. i'm just discussing baseball, the game i love. -
Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
That is a really stupid thing to say. I mean incredibly ignorant. Pitchers can't commit themselves to not get hurt, or get back from injuries. hahaha, no it's not. you're essentially saying that effort in recovering from an injury means nothing. THAT's the stupid thing to say. you don't really believe that, now do you? -
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cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
In the case of pitching-related arm problems, never. You question his physical ability to get healthy, but there's no reason to question the commitment. really? no reason? why's that? do you think he's unaware of what's at stake? this is not his hobby. he's not just a fan. this is this guy's career. millions and million of dollars, not to mention fame and much more, are at stake right now. you really think he's not commited to that? give me a break. no, i don't. i think if he were actually committed he wouldn't have been hurt for the last FIVE YEARS. are you actually believing what you're saying? so any time a player is injured for 5 years, it's lack of commitment? it has nothing to do with the injuries? please make it stop read slower. i'm not saying it has nothing to do with injuries. suggesting so in and of itself is fundamentally ridiculous. of course the injuries are a factor. a two year old would know that. AT THE SAME TIME... i'm saying that his effort is a factor as well. that's all. make sense? -
Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
In the case of pitching-related arm problems, never. You question his physical ability to get healthy, but there's no reason to question the commitment. really? no reason? why's that? do you think he's unaware of what's at stake? this is not his hobby. he's not just a fan. this is this guy's career. millions and million of dollars, not to mention fame and much more, are at stake right now. you really think he's not commited to that? give me a break. no, i don't. i think if he were actually committed he wouldn't have been hurt for the last FIVE YEARS. -
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cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
what a stupid thing to say. umm no. i think we all understand who is saying the stupid things in this thread. i see. this must be the "group think" that i've been told by others is northsidebaseball's biggest downfall. -
Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
In the case of pitching-related arm problems, never. You question his physical ability to get healthy, but there's no reason to question the commitment. really? no reason? why's that? -
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cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
what a stupid thing to say. -
it's not that simple though. it's pie or gathright and whoever pie nets in return. pretty stupid to get upset at the signing of gathright when it remains to be seen what pie will net (not saying you're stupid, just speaking in general) What could Pie possibly net at this point? He's out of options, so the Cubs lose a lot of their leverage in dealing him. He can *only* be dealt to a team that has a spot for him this year, which significantly narrows the field and lowers the return. oh they surely lost a lot of leverage. the guy still has some value (a small amount, admittedly) to other organizations, though. unfortunately the gm's job isn't always easy though, and clearly the cubs think gathright will be a better asset than pie. whether you agree or disagree really doesn't mean anything. hopefully pie's trade return is something that will benefit the cubs in 2009 and beyond.
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Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
no, of course he's not. no one is suggesting anything in that ridiculous scenario. i think the notion that he's spending "hours upon hours" working out is equally as absurd, though. knowing the mark prior that we all got to know in his brief time in the cubs organization, i cant see the guy busting his ass to get back. dont you think that he'd be back and healthy by now if he had tried busting his ass in the past? it's a pretty fundamental approach. to getting healthy, that is. We aren't talking about a guy with weight issues who needs to get on the treadmill. We're talking about a guy who withstood serious abuse by a horrible manager and who sustained very serious arm injuries in the process. You can't just decide to bounce back from those things with extra effort. On top of that, he had a shoulder injury that the Cubs never found. No matter how hard you work, it's tough to get healthy when you have something structurally wrong with your shoulder. tougher, sure. absolutely. but we're not talking about a two month period. or even a one year period. it's been years now. let me ask you this... at what point do you question his committment to getting healthy? five years of being hurt? ten? ever? -
Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
no, of course he's not. no one is suggesting anything in that ridiculous scenario. i think the notion that he's spending "hours upon hours" working out is equally as absurd, though. knowing the mark prior that we all got to know in his brief time in the cubs organization, i cant see the guy busting his ass to get back. dont you think that he'd be back and healthy by now if he had tried busting his ass in the past? it's a pretty fundamental approach. to getting healthy, that is. We aren't talking about a guy with weight issues who needs to get on the treadmill. We're talking about a guy who withstood serious abuse by a horrible manager and who sustained very serious arm injuries in the process. You can't just decide to bounce back from those things with extra effort. sure you can. you either commit yourself to do something or you don't. i'm questioning his commitment. i don't doubt that he wants to be a major league pitcher for one second. i do, however, doubt his effort to do so. -
it's not that simple though. it's pie or gathright and whoever pie nets in return. pretty stupid to get upset at the signing of gathright when it remains to be seen what pie will net (not saying you're stupid, just speaking in general)
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Prior back with the Padres
cubbinalltheway replied to mdwilla's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
no, of course he's not. no one is suggesting anything in that ridiculous scenario. i think the notion that he's spending "hours upon hours" working out is equally as absurd, though. knowing the mark prior that we all got to know in his brief time in the cubs organization, i cant see the guy busting his ass to get back. dont you think that he'd be back and healthy by now if he had tried busting his ass in the past? it's a pretty fundamental approach. to getting healthy, that is.

