I see. So when is the cut off for "it's recent enough to be relevant"? I'm going to guess right around the time Illinois went to the National Championship game? Anything before that doesn't matter, right? How long do you get to hang your hat on that exactly? This post is just embarrassing. I was told "almost every big ten team has been more successful [than Purdue]". I responded by stating that they have the most Big Ten Championships and a winning record against every Big Ten School. Than I'm told (paraphrasing) "that doesn't count". I'm just trying to get the rules right here. So you tell me, has almost every Big Ten team been more successful than Purdue? That has nothing to do with why your post was embarrassing...which makes this one even more embarrassing. And yes, in the NCAA Tournament era, which is plenty long enough now, almost every Big Ten team has been more successful than Purdue. Purdue easily clears Penn State, Nebraska and Northwestern, though, so keep that chin up! So, we're only judging teams by their NCAA tourney accomplishments? Just making sure I have this right now. So in the last five years, Purdue's 5 NCAA tourney bids and 7-5 record is better or worse than Illinois' 3 NCAA tourney bids and 1-3 record? Or does this not count either because Weber was the coach?