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god this feels like the SB start fast, fade away comon bears

I planned ahead. gotta 12 of Harp :)

atta boy matt Hester has changed the game.

Should be at least 17-7, but Nugent hurt his leg on a field goal attempt. Favre looks decent so far. and on that last play, still wreckless

Come on defense scores at least one touchdown. defense, no. Hester, yes. hester TD = 7 O FG = 3 Defense Safety=2 Bears score 12 :)

jesus..the senile men and a google map...lol

I actually saw the last bit of Rome is Burning yesterday, and he pretty much said the exact same thing. He replayed Hester's opening kickoff return at the Super Bowl, and said anything other than kicking it out of bounds is a mistake. I hate to agree with that man, but... i'll take it....

I actually saw the last bit of Rome is Burning yesterday, and he pretty much said the exact same thing. He replayed Hester's opening kickoff return at the Super Bowl, and said anything other than kicking it out of bounds is a mistake. I hate to agree with that man, but... i'll take it....

I've had 4X8 sheets thrown at me (hit me across my chest-bruised for a week) and seen the table saw pull a sheet with someones finger getting split right up the middle table saws are evil. I still use them, but with great cation and only one that I know well.

I would not. This defense cannot blitz. They suck at it. Whether it is scheme or ability of the linebackers, when they rush 5 or 6, the only thing I see is guys running right into blockers. I would much rather they force Manning and the Colts to take their time and move up and down the field methodically, increasing the chances that they will make a mistake, rather than gambling on blitzes. this defense is fast enough and has enough playmakers to play straight up. Idk about blitzing, unless its obvious how they can do it

I don't think there is any argument that he whiffed on 2007's picks. It's clear he did. 2008 is unclear. He also whiffed early in 2002, 2003 and 2005. I'm inclined to give him another draft, possibly only because I know it's inevitable that he will still be here. But also because he hasn't been completely incompetent. But enough about Jerry's KIDS, this is a game thread. I'm convinced they will lose and lose big. This has been penciled in as a loss from everybody, from those picking 4-6 wins or those thinking 7-9 wins is possible. The only way people could have been thinking this is a potential win are those holding out hope for 10 or more wins, and I think if this team pulls out the win, 10+ would not be out of the question. sorry..I saw an opportunity there. I agree. I just hold out to eternal pre-season optimism. go bears.

That's why I hated when he started drafting offense, beginning with Olson. Defenses age very, very fast and need constant new blood. I believe the Bears can win with a defense/special teams philosophy, but it will require constant drafting of top defensive talent. I disagree with the bolded. He drafted Olsen in the 1st, but he wasted a 2nd and 3rd on crap defensive players that year. He was all about defense and special teams in the 2006 draft. He got cocky with his ability to get away with overdrafting. What he should have been doing was drafting QBs and OLine every year in the 2-4 rounds. Yes, defenses age fast and it was important to keep restocking with fresh young bodies. But, while the notion that they can win on defense alone may be true, it's stupid to live by that rule. They need to keep restocking the defense with bodies, while also building the offense. Instead, they let the offense stay as mediocre as ever, and failed to restock the defense. while I can't rule out an epiphany on Angelo's part, I fear this is going to be the trend forward .....

LOL, nicely said. I'm coming to that conclusion myself. I'm resisting it a bit.......he did somehow assemble a pretty good ballclub a couple years back. Was it just a mirage? It was 2 straight years of playoff football, that's got to count for something right? Or should it? Blah. I'm disappointed with where the team is right now, but I can't call Jerry a clown. He is a horrible judge of offensive talent. What he needs to do is hire an offensive guru, even if that means forcing him upon Lovie as an offensive coordinator. He needs to revamp the scouting department to find people who can find offensive players. Jerry ignored the line for too long and completely screwed the pooch on last year's draft. However, he's not imcompetent, and it's not out of the realm of possibility that he'll be able to turn things around. his inability to judge offensive talent and/or hire someone who can is a strong sign of imcompetence. Granted, I am dismissing the possible contributions of Forte, Williams, and (WR from Vanderbilt whos name escapes me), until recently he has been entirely imcompetent on O. and to let Turner linger around as long as he has is absolutely inexcusable. Maybe he had a good draft and all will turn around. Maybe I am jumping the gun on getting rid of him. But i just have a hard time seeing him turn it around as fast as he needs to.

He's picked twice in the late first and once in the top five. And one of those late first picks was due to the team's record before he took over. His other times he's picked in the middle or traded out to the 2nd. right, but to judge his record on top 1st round picks when he's had one top 4 pick is jumping the gun abit. It was a horrible pick, one that much of Chicago anticipated he was going to make and was begging him to reconsider. He would screw it up again, I feel certain of it. The best pick he's had in the 1st round was Tommie Harris @ 14. That's what I'm basing it on. Harris essentially fell into his lap. I dont know, to argue which set of juggling pins to give to the jester is abit unnerving in itself. why cant we just get rid of the clown entirely?

I would agree, but I'd also make a judgement on Angelo. Regardless of the fact that he's only picked in the top 5 once, he's had 7 opportunities to pick in the first round and has not selected one impact offensive player. The closest thing he's picked to an impact offensive player anywhere is Hester, who has really only had an impact on special teams. And of those 7 opportunities, he's picked one impact player overall, with Harris on defense. I think it's more than fair to doubt, if not completely disregard the chances of Angelo making the right pick in the top 5. his overall track record is fair territory, especially 1st round. that being said, I would prefer a high 1st rd pick that he could trade and increase his odds. or just get rid of him entirely and stop wasting draft picks. The only possible way he's gone before the next draft is if this team is truly historically bad, and goes something like 2-14. That may be the only way the McCaskeys thinking about eating his contract. Trading high draft picks is not the same business it was 5-6 years ago. It's really hard to do and very hard to get value. like I said, its what I would prefer him to do, not nec the actual outcome. I certainly dont trust him with a single mid-round 1st rounder unless someone drops to him ala Harris, and late round is just as iffy in his hands as #4.

I would agree, but I'd also make a judgement on Angelo. Regardless of the fact that he's only picked in the top 5 once, he's had 7 opportunities to pick in the first round and has not selected one impact offensive player. The closest thing he's picked to an impact offensive player anywhere is Hester, who has really only had an impact on special teams. And of those 7 opportunities, he's picked one impact player overall, with Harris on defense. I think it's more than fair to doubt, if not completely disregard the chances of Angelo making the right pick in the top 5. his overall track record is fair territory, especially 1st round. that being said, I would prefer a high 1st rd pick that he could trade and increase his odds. or just get rid of him entirely and stop wasting draft picks.

He's picked twice in the late first and once in the top five. And one of those late first picks was due to the team's record before he took over. His other times he's picked in the middle or traded out to the 2nd. right, but to judge his record on top 1st round picks when he's had one top 4 pick is jumping the gun abit.

You're going to have a rough Sunday if you are relying on the Bears to pull you out of your baseball blues. The Bears getting annihilated and confirming expectations that they won't be a contender could make a Cubs fan feel much better about baseball, and the situation the Cubs are in. exactly, I need a release

6-28, what is this, tennis? :D) Maybe the Bears should go to a spread offense since they have had so many problems with finding a QB, I'd like to see how it would work in the pros. First order of business there would be to fire Turner, because he wouldn't run it. That would be a good start no matter what offense you would want to run. I can't say I'd be upset. I'm trying to keep expectations low on this one. If we lose but keep it close I will focus on the positives from the game, because I feel like there will be positives to talk about if we are competitive. You'd rather go 6-10 than 2-14? Given the cost/benefit of top picks, I'd say that's a defensible position. LOL, yeah Jerry seems to do better when he's mid first round than when he's top 5. to be fair, he's had much more practice in the late 1st then top 5

Sunday night cant come soon enough. with the Cubs apparently set on floating into the playoffs, and the Brewers deciding they're ok with that, I need some football.

Z is rather emotional in his responses. I dont like this.

He shouldn't have, but I'm not surprised. Even though NFL coaches are far more likely to hand jobs to deserving youngsters than MLB people are, they still do tend to rely on "veteran presence" a bit too much. Booker was brought in to be the steady short yardage 3rd down receiver you can count on. They probably think that if there is any hope for a playoff team in 2008, they need a guy like Booker to perform as well as they think he can. If this was a new staff not worried about keeping their jobs beyond 2008, they probably would have gone with the youngster (like Miami getting rid of Booker). But Lovie, and especially Turner, probably need to win as many games as possible to avoid the firing line. In those situations, coaches nearly always go with experience over the unknown youth. exactly. its a shame tho.

in an effort too trick myself into being excited about this season, I'm calling upset Bears 12 Dolts 9

Anyone know anything about this guy? I'd trust Gruden on offensive linemen. Hopefully he can help--god knows we need it. I trust Gruden too, which is why I worry he isn't any good. the guys from GREEN FREAKING BAY. if I start to see false starts from him............ in other news, Tommie might be a scratch http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-080902-tommie-harris-chicago-bears,1,837160.story: