minnesotacubsfan

yea but thats way cooler.

If Cutler did that, you'd call him a douche. Jay Cutler is dating Kristen Cavaleri. That's indisputable evidence of his douchebaggery. talk about bitter jealousy Rodgers gets the title, Cutler gets a fantastic looking lay.

If Stafford can stay healthy for a full season, they could be a playoff team within the next year or two. add to that that I think it could take 11 wins to be assured the wild card anymore. considering GB and Chi could teeter-totter 1-2 in the division, and 11 wins is a good amount for Chicago, if Detroit gets better and splits the series with Chicago, Chicago doesn't get the WC. The vikings, on the other hand, are headed for a rough time considering their stadium situation, aging players (D-line) and lack of QB. as I've said, anything to keep Detroit down. Buy japanese cars, fly southwest, just keep Detroit down (I'm kidding here)

Detroit actually worries me. I think they could really pick up steam

I guess my chagrin in this came from the assertion that the packers had all pros at every position and were likely to repeat multiple times. To that, I wanted to point out the parity that exists in the NFL as pointed out by the fact that relative unknowns can often play a season at a very high level. But that doesn't guarantee any lingering success. It just felt like your arguments were placing the Packers at the elite-abandon-all-hope-for competing-with-them levels. Bishop had a good year. It is their opinion that he should have gone to the Pro-Bowl. we can agree on that, cant we?

Me either, but after the year he had running behind that line, he has to be top 10 easily. I suppose if you consider his receiving abilities out of the backfield you could make a case for top 5. he was ranked their 6th-best RB for the season http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/01/21/undercover-mvps-matt-forte/ i'd like to hear specifically what of that write-up you disagree with, minny He said he's not a top 3 back. Your link says he's ranked 6th. What exactly is the point you're trying to make? i was clarifying Minny's mix-up, their specifics actually line up well with my perceptions of Forte (middle of the road runner, great in pass pro, catching) unless they make their claim anywhere else, this is the only place I see them saying Bishop is all world (and Forte is "top 3"): http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/01/26/nfc-pro-bowl-who-you-should-have-been-watching-or-not-watching-in-hawaii/ Granted, they have another article stating they really believe Forte is a top 6 back. That leads me to believe that your assessment of Bishop being "among the very best" is only based on your own eyes and an article written to rebuke the 2010 Pro Bowl selections. But I don't think that is solid proof. there are other portions of the website I cant access (I get a malicious website warning when I try to go into the "top players by rankings" area), but to say Bishop is "among the very best" is to me hyperbole.

6 is about the highest I would think of him. Your earlier post suggested they thought he could have been a top 3. I think the first article you posted is just their way of rebuking the Pro Bowl entries, and maybe we are making too much of it to say they actually believe Bishop is among the very best. I think they were really just saying his play should have earned him a Pro Bowl appearance, which there is an argument for. But I don't think they believe either Forte or Bishop will continue to be at that level or have been enough to be the very best in the league.

I'd rather just witness it then imagine it. but, we got the Angelo Clown Posse leading us. so...

I think he's top 10 with his receiving abilities. he has to many runs where he hits the line and stops. once he gets to the edge, he's phenomenal.

who cares? they're wrong about Bishop. They also say Forte is a top 3 back, which I dont buy either.

Throwing an interception? HOLD ME CLOSER TINY DANCER

But he watches the games. His eyes wouldn't deceive him, would they? funny, that was sneakys exact reasoning behind his link. Bishop is good, but among the best? I dont buy it. Best of the second tier maybe.

persuasive I am, with my green eggs and ham.

thats great that they like the guy. he still isnt in the top 5 ILB on 3-4 teams.

meh, their explanations dont do much for me

Yeah, we had to depend on a 6th round rookie who didn't get his first NFL carry until December. I'll take my chances with a pretty proven RB in the league going forward, or at least splitting time with Starks. i don't know how the results are much different. the offense wasn't much better or worse without him. Our run game was obviously much worse this season compared to the last couple. and look what happened. McCarthy is much better when calling a passing game and the run game is pretty much crippled

the 3-4 uses more than 1 ILB... lets see: Jarrod Mayo James Harrison Brady James Bart Scott Patrick Willis Ray Lewis What do they have in common? All better then the so called "among the best in the league" Bishop.

yea, I know Peppers gets all the hype and he had some pretty good series, but I don't know that he was that big of an upgrade over OGUN as the hyperbole suggest. But not having a good running MLB in the middle REALLY hurt us last year. I think it gets overlooked. Look at GB's seam routes against Chicago vs their seam routes against the rest of the league. There is a reason Rodgers didnt play as well vs Chicago, and its not our All Pro safeties.

Better LB. but they don't play the same position, and in the Cover 2, they are different enough to make them incomparable. Briggs at WLB w/ Urlacher at Middle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then Briggs at MLB and ANYONE at WLB, or Briggs at WLB and anyone not named Patrick Willis at MLB.

w or w/o Taylor, RB isnt a need

wait, Briggs is a better MLB then Urlacher? I'm confused

its not great, and wont be with Grant either I still think Starks is mediocre.

I've completely misread his contract. its probably closer to $2 mil this coming year, and that is much more palatable. I'd still look pretty close at a replacement.

considering Taylors salary next year will be in the $5mil range for a back up RB, you cut him. again, a back up position is not a hole when your starter is pretty good. stop the monetary bleeding, put that money towards Forte or FA, and play either Bell or a UFA.

+ they should periodically draft RB's to keep fresh legs around. As much as a QB.