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I don't think the 2005-6 DE's were nearly as good as Peppers and anyone. 54 & 55 were younger, but neither have had significant declines. Tommie was the best inside dl we have had, but tank was overly glorified. Melton, as much as I think he will be our second best inside guy, is better then Tank. I think it's certainly an interesting comparison. The biggest difference? Mike Brown

I'm not as high on Melton as some are either. He's still growing into the position, and I think Paea will likely be better

You're nuts. Harris was a beast and Tank Johnson was actually quite good for a year. You are honestly the only person I've heard suggest anything other than Urlacher isn't as good as he was at his peak. The team doesn't even pretend that is the case. Lovies system has played a bigger role in Urlachers perceived decline then his physical age. His physical decline is completely overblown It's the same system he was in when he was at his best. Urlacher put up next to career 16-game season lows in tackles, passes defensed, and had no sacks. Urlacher was pretty consistent 125+ tackles, 5 sacks, 3 INT player in Lovie's system in his prime. He clearly does not have that ability anymore. His decline in range could be a reason the safety play has been so bad the last few years. Granted, Mike Brown was a beast too, but he was often out of the lineup without much dropoff as the last few years have had. Where the hell did you get the average of 5 sacks thing? He hast averaged that since before the Lovie regime. And his ints have ticked up recently. His only real decline came in the tackles column, and that can be explained by teams running far less against the Bears ( see pass happy Detroit and GB) He hasn't been the super-freak we saw fly all around the field since the pre-Lovie days. That's due to a scheme change I didn't say the word "average" I said he was consistent 5 sacks a year in his prime. The first 4 years under Lovie he had 5.5, 6, 5 sacks in years 1, 2, and 4. The 3rd year he had none but that was the SB year and the front 4 had 34 sacks between them and he wasn't needed to rush the passer. Right. That's my point really, those 0 years were either injury years or years he wasn't blitzing a whole lot. Case in point: last year when the Dline carried the vast number of sacks. Scheme. Say it with me!

You're nuts. Harris was a beast and Tank Johnson was actually quite good for a year. You are honestly the only person I've heard suggest anything other than Urlacher isn't as good as he was at his peak. The team doesn't even pretend that is the case. Lovies system has played a bigger role in Urlachers perceived decline then his physical age. His physical decline is completely overblown It's the same system he was in when he was at his best. Urlacher put up next to career 16-game season lows in tackles, passes defensed, and had no sacks. Urlacher was pretty consistent 125+ tackles, 5 sacks, 3 INT player in Lovie's system in his prime. He clearly does not have that ability anymore. His decline in range could be a reason the safety play has been so bad the last few years. Granted, Mike Brown was a beast too, but he was often out of the lineup without much dropoff as the last few years have had. Where the hell did you get the average of 5 sacks thing? He hast averaged that since before the Lovie regime. And his ints have ticked up recently. His only real decline came in the tackles column, and that can be explained by teams running far less against the Bears ( see pass happy Detroit and GB) He hasn't been the super-freak we saw fly all around the field since the pre-Lovie days. That's due to a scheme change

You're nuts. Harris was a beast and Tank Johnson was actually quite good for a year. You are honestly the only person I've heard suggest anything other than Urlacher isn't as good as he was at his peak. The team doesn't even pretend that is the case. Lovies system has played a bigger role in Urlachers perceived decline then his physical age. His physical decline is completely overblown

"The Bears are one of the few teams that make special teams part of their foundation. Thirty-one other teams would do this, too, if they had a return artist like Devin Hester." Not sure about that for a couple reasons. The Bears emphasized special teams before Hester showed up. It was always going to be a big part of their scheme. Additionally, they went after Hester and Manning in the same draft largely because of that emphasis on special teams. I think some teams would do what the Bears have done if they had Hester. However, most would simply hope Hester would do what he does while treating the rest of their special teams unit exactly as they do now. I thought it was revisionist too: the Bears have Hester because the focus so much on ST's

"The Bears are one of the few teams that make special teams part of their foundation. Thirty-one other teams would do this, too, if they had a return artist like Devin Hester."

http://roadto90.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/keithlaw.jpg though admittedly i did lift the nickname from some blogger who had some hilarious vendetta against him My daughter has a very similar bath towel. This guy has a lot to live up to

Make fun of Heymen all you want, but one day you might wake up and there won't be a Heymen and you will be disappointed. Or more likely: you'll awaken to him standing over you bed wielding a knife sporting a vintage poodle skirt. or not Oh? Maybe that was treymon then

Make fun of Heymen all you want, but one day you might wake up and there won't be a Heymen and you will be disappointed. Or more likely: you'll awaken to him standing over you bed wielding a knife sporting a vintage poodle skirt.

damn! another 10!

actually, I think you missed it by like a nano-second

aw snap! literally

guys, who gives a [expletive]. I want to see vids of Dan Marino pre-TJS.

that strassberg guy is a real jerk. and oh yea, I never new Dan Marino played baseball.

[expletive] glorious

Ride that broken mule into the [expletive] sunset and say "see ya" at the end of the season

I wouldn't put Dempster into the pen unless there was a younger arm I really wanted to look at. If there was, I wouldn't hesitate to use Dempster in whatever fashion suited me, ie clean up innings, no save situations, etc. but if I didn't have an arm I wanted to evaluate, I ride Dempster 150 + pitches a night and get every last pitch I could

Pffft. That's just reasonable fan concern. Nothing wrong with that! you were complaining about the thread. Don't be a hypocrite now. If there were actual death threats, the odds that they came from a couple of the lunatics on here are rather high. about as high as the odds that southsideryan will always pretend he's too cool to ever get upset about something bad happening to the Cubs. He's a white sox fan...duh

This thread has gone epic on so many levels

Actually, we know what the "hold up" is. I hear that down south they don't serve nacho cheese with breadsticks. Such a crime FREE DA BUM!

Gary? Tommy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfZQLXs72Lo

this is Karma for Maddox. Theo has already reversed the curse. who? I fully believe Sulleys "my teams" curse thing: if I spell Greg's name correctly, it wont happen.

this is Karma for Maddox. Theo has already reversed the curse.

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