Kreutz was terrible and the team was a complete joke for half his time on the roster. There's always a need for leadership and Briggs was also a horrible option for that role. Urlacher filled that role and was a star impact player who made a difference. Kreutz was a freaking center, one of the least important jobs on the starting offense. His leadership was based on being a dick and didn't make anybody any better. He was the face of the offense when the team couldn't play offense. Kruetz was a 6 time pro bowler. He had his day as a leader, even if he was credited as being a leader past his best years The team also sucked when he was at his best. FWIW, I didn't mean he was a terrible player. I meant he was a terrible leader. All bluster. He was a leader for the sake of saying he was leading, not to accomplish anything meaningful. He had some good years as a lineman, however, him being the best lineman on the team was neither good for any other lineman, or the team. Kreutz was the type of guy that said we dip our balls in the rookies mouths because somebody dipped their balls in his mouth when he was a a rookie, not because he thought it helped the team grow together. Ball dipping is something I (thankfully) wasn't aware of Eta: and yes, the team sucked a good portion of those years, but he did go to the PB the year of the SB, and the pivotal 2 years leading up to the SB year. So, he was good AND a leader when the team was good. And [expletive] Benson