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I would not be opposed to those moves but why Pie so high and DeRosa so low? If you were to flip them I'd be on board. I would not want my #5 hitter to be an offensive liability like Pie who at times will be completely overwhelmed at this level and will struggle to just make contact. The #5 hitter seems to be an unavoidable hole at this point. Sure, they can bat Fukudome there, but he's much better served at #2 or maybe even #1. DeRosa is in the same boat. Both are decent hitters who can take pitches, but they (likely) don't have the power threat to really shore up #5. Of course, Soriano is ideal hitting 5th, but personally, I'm not confident of him being as valuable as he can be anywhere besides #1. I know it's a broken record and probbly no chance of happening, but man, picking up Greene from SD would so wonderfully solve both the SS and #5 issues. I wonder if a package of Marmol/Cedeno/Gallagher/Murton would have a chance of getting that done by the deadline. Let's not give up one of the best relief pitchers in baseball for a SS that bats for a lower average than Theriot. Greene is head and shoulders above Theriot but giving up Marmol would be idiotic. I would find Greene frustrating to watch because he is a guy who swings for the fences 90% of the time but isn't really a great power guy. If he changed his approach and went for more contact he could be a .280 15-20 hr guy while playing good defense. And to answer the blame it on Hendry stuff. Yes it is Hendry's fault all we have is Theriot but we can't have great hitters at every position. We have signed Sori, Lee, Aram, Derosa, and Fukudome in recent years (extensions on some) while developing Soto and Pie. SS is the one position we never improved at (well Theriot is an improvement over Izturis) but its not like there is an abundance of good SS. Boston had Lugo all of last year is Epstein a bad GM for that?

You of all people on this board should not be making something I say into a racial argument. And I know for a fact from your wishing bad things on him last year that you don't like Neifi one bit. Que? He's my roommate and I would hope by now he knows I'm not a racist. I would think he was joking but even joking on that topic I don't like. Also a large majority of you guys wouldn't know he's joking. Ok. Now can you explain what made Neifi lazy and stupid when he was here? He was bad at baseball, but I don't remember him being lazy or particularly stupid. I remember him putting on weight in his last stint and complaining about crap. I don't remember specific examples, it's been too long. I don't think there is a clear cut obvious example I just remember when he was on the team complaining about him not giving full effort if he was pouting about playing time.

After what I saw the first two games I would settle for just Soriano and Ramirez getting on track and getting their first hits of 2008.

Got to get my post count up somehow #-o . Stupid internet in my apartment goes in and out. Kept stopping before it would take me away from the post screen. Guess it was actually posting.

Just so you guys know the Theriot appreciation thread has more posts that the get rid of him thread :P . Then again 9/10 of the posts are people from this thread hopping into that one to bash him :roll: .

Just so you guys know the Theriot appreciation thread has more posts that the get rid of him thread :P . Then again 9/10 of the posts are people from this thread hopping into that one to bash him :roll: .

Just so you guys know the Theriot appreciation thread has more posts that the get rid of him thread :P . Then again 9/10 of the posts are people from this thread hopping into that one to bash him :roll: .

You of all people on this board should not be making something I say into a racial argument. And I know for a fact from your wishing bad things on him last year that you don't like Neifi one bit. Que? He's my roommate and I would hope by now he knows I'm not a racist. I would think he was joking but even joking on that topic I don't like. Also a large majority of you guys wouldn't know he's joking.

why is Soto batting 8th? He's actually batting ninth. The pitcher would bat leadoff. Kind of reverse logic of the second leadoff guy Milwaukee employs.

I don't know I would probably still rather sit in the bleacher's. The atmosphere out there just kicks butt.

You of all people on this board should not be making something I say into a racial argument. And I know for a fact from your wishing bad things on him last year that you don't like Neifi one bit.

I didn't like him but I didn't hate him either. I had a predisposed opinion of him because I remember his four straight 30+ HR seasons with Milwaukee. Plus he didn't play to his potential. He batted like .290 with 100+ RBIs and 30+ the year before we got him.

Way to be irrational. When you guys decide to pick on you guy you pour it on. He can do nothing right in your mind. You refuse to appreciate a guy who plays hard everyday because he isn't the best player. Pretty stupid to me. No one has said he is a great player or even good. All I've said is a appreciate his hard play and none jerk attitude. Maybe it's becase we want to win games? Nobody said we don't appreciate the fact that Theriot plays hard and blah blah blah. The fact is that it doesn't make up for the fact that he's not good and hurts the lineup. If I get a spot in the Cubs lineup I'll promise to work hard and have a good attitude. Do you want me to start too? No because you suck at baseball (I'm assuming) and wouldn't be our best option. Way to be irrational once again. We are talking about guys in the MLB not a fan on a message board. Is it bad to apprecaite guys who play hard and are down to Earth? I would hope your answer would be no. If so then why are you agruing. You are acting like I've said Theriot is a good player. He's an average player but plays hard every second unlike a good portion of players and isn't full of himself.

Yeah that would help considerably.

Way to be irrational. When you guys decide to pick on you guy you pour it on. He can do nothing right in your mind. You refuse to appreciate a guy who plays hard everyday because he isn't the best player. Pretty stupid to me. No one has said he is a great player or even good. All I've said is a appreciate his hard play and none jerk attitude.

I love when people put words in other peoples mouth. Never said he should start because he is a good guy. I said I will root for him and support him because of it.

I'm glad we picked up right where we left off in the playoffs. :shock:

Very well may be. Doesn't bother me any. I'll always support a guy who plays all out and is a good guy. That's cool. I want to win. I want to win too and with our roster right now Theriot is the best we got which is why I started this thread. Theriot isn't a great player by any stretch but he's our best option.

No because he made stupid mistakes and was lazy.

I believe he showed it in the 4th inning.

Very well may be. Doesn't bother me any. I'll always support a guy who plays all out and is a good guy.

Hart walks Hart. Then Hart steals two bases on Hart.

For those of us who support The Riot. He's not the best (or close to it) but he's the best we got and we support him because he gives everything he's got every second of every game.

The first 2 sentences don't seem to go together. If he's their only good pitcher how exactly do you think they will contend? On the question at hand, though. I wouldn't want to take the risk on him. Unless the Cubs are looking to fill Prior's DL spot there's really no reason. If Harden stays healthy and pitches well beane will want to move him while he has a high value. If not he will take the team option and hope for a good season next year. Unless we are the cusp of being true WS contenders Hendry won't go for him. In general I think the Cubs will avoid any pitcher with major injury issues for the next 10 years or so. Besides if we can't get Roberts I doubt we can get Harden.

Alou should have yelled at the ump for interference not Bartman. But with that said I would have yelled at Bartman. Bartman is a scapegoat but the fact remains that when I go to games (at any level of baseball) I know to let the guy try to catch it. He should have not tried to catch it but he is hardly the first or last to do something like this. And Alou saying this now when in the story they quote him saying that Bartman put his hand in his glove is a lie. He's trying to get people of the guys back because he is obviously a big fan of the Cubs and baseball.