Lilly was pretty good in 2002 and 2004, and decent in 2006. It's not like he's Rusch here. Nate Robertson has some similarities, results wise. I think Doug Davis is another comparison. These guys aren't great, but if you are going to be getting multiple pitchers, they could be the robin to the offseason equivalent of batman. Throw Moyer money at them, and you could benefit. I'd like to go in another direction myself, but if you have multiple holes, this type of pitcher might be a reasonable target. This goony fella sounds like a smart baseball fan. He could go places. i heard he got banned