How would you know? They don't play anyone. What's the best OOC win? The squeaked against ASU or UM needing 4 TOs, missed FGs, and about 6 consecutive prayers answered to beat an average ND team? (A top ten team yet to play an away game finally travels 90 miles West this week) The entire conference starts with cupcakes and maybe 1 AQ school. Then 6 weeks in they look back and see which 4 teams are still defeated and say "but the top of the conference is solid." The argument is pretty much that the Big Ten is better than the ACC, Big East and Pac 10. Ohio State beat Colorado Iowa beat Pittsburgh Northwestern beat Boston College at their place Illinois beat Arizona State Wisconsin beat Oregon State Nebraska beat Washington The worst teams, Indiana and Minnesota almost beat Virginia (Virginia isn't good so that may not be relevant) and USC Time will still tell how impressive, or not impressive some of those games are but it shows that the Big Ten is playing and beating those conferences. The only loss I can find by the Big Ten to any of those teams is OSU vs Miami. Of the three teams in the top 15 they have beat good teams. Michigan beat Notre Dame who I think will finish in the top 25 and Illinois beat Arizona State. Wisconsin hasn't beat anyone outside of conference but I find it hard to argue that they aren't a top 5 team regardless. They would compete with and beat almost anyone in the country. The ND team that lost to Michigan would have lost to almost anyone in the country. That's not a quality win. My point is, it's difficult to look at the bigx records or schedules and conclude that it's a strong conference bc of the lack of quality games. If you claim that the top of the conference is solid, you need to base that on something. The wins those teams have aren't impressive though. So what's the conclusion based on? An undefeated record in games against bad teams isn't enough. Who has Alabama (Penn State is comparable to the Notre Dame win you keep trying to discredit) , Oklahoma (Florida State isn't impressive now), Boise State (Georgia hasn't beaten anyone in the Non-Con season), Oklahoma State, Stanford, Oregon, Georgia Tech and South Carolina beat in the Non-Conference (all top 15 teams)?