Skyballer

Or you could always just have a list of the top, say, 20 free agents and have Serena start a thread with people responding with their entries there. Perhaps I'm mistaken but isn't Serena now known as Laura? :-k

Am I the only one confused?

your dad hates Joe Torre? I thought the implication was rather clear :wink: I think he was trying to figure out why My dad feels Torre made wrong decisions and has taking away too many chances for prospects. He also is pissed that Kevin Thompson never got a shot and that he left starting pitchers in a game too long. I'm not my dad so that's all the info I got.

your dad hates Joe Torre? I thought the implication was rather clear :wink:

It seems as though that's what they did.

Pitching and defense are NOT the same thing. A good pitcher or ground ball pitcher can look bad because of a bad defense where as if he tends to k more guys he would look alot better. The one ting that goes without argument imo is that a good defense will make the pitching look better. Also a good pitcher doesn't necessarily make his d look better, so no they're not the same.

Excuse me while I go tell my dad(yankees fan) and watch him piss his pants with joy.

Normally I'd agree with you, if it wasn't for the fact that someone on the "outside" has seen the "inside" OMG WHO???? Oh like i'd tell you :lol:

Normally I'd agree with you, if it wasn't for the fact that someone on the "outside" has seen the "inside" OMG WHO????

Some specified number of days following the end of the World Series. I don't recall the specific number of days, but I don't think it's much longer than a week. I believe it's 10 days. I believe you are correct, am I correct to assume you can start trading after the last out of the deciding WS game?

Well TBS has a Cub announcer so...TBS

I love the rename for this thread. :lol:

No kidding, nothing against Tim, but I swear it takes the guy years to check PM's.

Are you serious? How long of a ban was it?

YES!

Is it just me, or has it been a while since we've seen you. EDIT:I haven't been posting much so that might be the problem.

sb? sb%?

I never said Theriot was better than DeRosa, what I did say was a interrogative statement asking why one automatically assumes DeRosa instantly gets the job at 2b over Theriot-if Theriot is forced from short that is-without competiton during spring training. Haha, what? And DeRosa should automatically be given the job because he's better than Theriot. The same reason Derrek Lee won't be battling Darryl Ward for the starting 1B job in Spring Training. Did you just compare Lee-Ward and DeRosa-Theriot? I really hope you didn't, I'm disgusted at the comparison.

Damnit baseball is still real to me.

I never said Theriot was better than DeRosa, what I did say was a interrogative statement asking why one automatically assumes DeRosa instantly gets the job at 2b over Theriot-if Theriot is forced from short that is-without competiton during spring training.

Really, FP was the only career mark I found on B-R and FP favored Riot. As far as physical defensive skills go, they're both surehanded and have about even arms. Theriot is way faster though.

Using career number the two is not a good idea espeically in Theriot's case. I think he's proven that his 2006 line was an anomaly and that we're much more likely to see the 2007 version in the future. So look at their lines this year: DeRosa: .293/.371/.420/.791 Theriot: .266/.326/.346/.672 Theriot has never shown to have had much power and has a career .066 IsoP in the minors. Even if you take DeRosa's career numbers .278/.341/.408/.749, they're easily better than what Theriot did this year. DeRosa doesn't have a ton of power, but Theriot basically has none (5 HR's in 2048 career AB's in the minors). I would hardly consider DeRosa to be a slightly better batter. Who's to say the last two years for DeRo weren't fluky. And to restate one point DeRosa is 32 and likely to decline while Theriot is 27 and likely to improve or stay the same. Again though, I'm not making the arguement on who should start, I'm making the argument that you can't automatically assume DeRosa should start.

I'm not saying one way or the other but care to explain your side. DeRosa is better at....well....everything. The numbers say differently. I honestly think this will be a very fair battle in ST and that no one will be favored by anything more than their production during ST and the season.

I'm not saying one way or the other but care to explain your side.

So let's pretend we get Renteria or A-Rod to play short? Why is everyone so quick to assume DeRosa is automatically the starter at second base over Theriot. They both have a career OBP of .341, Riot does have a 29 point lower slg of .379 compared to DeRosa's .408, I'd say they are about the same when it comes to batting, with a slight edge to DeRo. So another tool we can use to value them is baserunning, and yes it is relevant. Riot stole 28 bases and was caught 4 times in '07, good for a 87%. DeRo stole one base and was caught twice good for 33%. over their career, Riot has a 87 percent success rate compared to DeRosa's 48 percent. We've now concluded that Riot is considerably faster and better at stealing base than DeRosa and that DeRosa is a slightly better batter. Next tool I can think of is fielding, Riot has a career FP of .992 percent at 2B compared to DeRosa's .984 percent. We've now concluded that Theriot is a better fielder and baserunner than DeRosa but slightly weaker batter. Let's not forget that DeRosa is on the wrong side of 30 and likely to decrease while Theriot is 27 going on 28 and should improve or stay the same. Based on the evidence, and if we get a new SS, I'd say we'd go into ST in a fair battle between DeRosa and Riot with the better performer getting the nod and without experience or past performance being considered. Ideas?