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The loss of Chirinos carried little to no significance to begin with.
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Of course theres always the chance that Koyie saws off another finger.
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wb reed johnson
Little Slide Rooter replied to rocket's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
You can do a hell of a lot worse than Reed Johnson as a 5th outfielder. If we count count on him being healthy, Id see if we could sell high on Byrd and platoon Johnson and Colvin. -
BA's Top 10 Cubs Prospects
Little Slide Rooter replied to Transmogrified Tiger's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Has Jay Jackson completely fallen off the map? Nothing against Barney as a solid backup SS, but he has no business as a top 10 prospect. -
Whats the deal with Jim Hendry and untalented, light hitting middle infielders? Your paying both Barney and Baker next to nothing, both who have a ceiling, and your interested in the poor mans Aaron Miles? Just as I was thinking that wed had a productive offseason without any nauseatingly bad moves. Then again, we need to find some way to counter the Brewers aquisition of Yuniesky Betencourt.
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I was looking at the Cubs roster on MLB.com, and just out of curiosity, who the hell is this guy? http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?roster_year=2010&player_id=446488&c_id=chc
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Sounds like a slightly younger, defensively challenged Chirinos. Any chance they'll keep him in Iowa and try to convery him to 1st? As of no, theres no reason that Wellington Castillo shouldt have 1st dibs on the backup C job.
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A good starting pitcher would go along way. Well, they just got one. What now? Can the Cubs win the division with this roster? C - Soto 1B - Pena 2B - DeWitt SS - Castro 3B - Ramirez LF - Soriano CF - Byrd RF - Fukudome/Colvin Garza Zambrano Dempster Wells Cashner Marmol Wood Marshall Grabow and a bunch of other possibilities to round out the pen. Again, its all about the ifs. Every one of our starting positon players has a question mark. The Cubs may very well have more question marks than any other team in baseball. Even Blake Dewitt is still fairly young and could hit his ceiling as a lower-middle class mans Mark DeRosa could be huge at the bottom of the lineup. If everyone of them gives us what their realy capable of, we could be looking at a 2008 like offense. Unlike our rivals, aside from the 9 spot, the Cubs dont appear to have any automatic outs, and with Garza, our pitching staff, if nothing else becomes on par with last years, especially if they go with 2 of Wells, Gorz, and Cash instead of Silva. Another guy who could be in that mix is young Casey Coleman who we all seem to forget exists despite doing pretty well for himself despite a rough start.
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Thats interesting. I could be way off here, but it sounds to me like our equivelent of Robinson Chirinos, Sean Marshall, a healthy Angel Guzman, and Hak Ju Lee or even Junior Lake.
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Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but per MLBTR, the pitcher we get is 22 year old lefty Zach Rosscup. Doesnt seem awful. http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker&utm_campaign=Linker&id=rosscu001zac
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I suppose heres 1 way to look at it: we traded 3 top prospects for a front end starter. I dont love it, but I guess we'll survive. we then traded 2 minor leaguers in their late 20's for 2 more minor leaguers in their late 20's. I dont know how the same people who never felt that Jake Fox and Micah Hoffpauir were worth anything see any value in Chirinos. Remember, all we ere offered for Chirinos was the 1st base version if him, and the Rangers wanted more as well.
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Silvas the guy who needs to go. Im not saying hes awful, but hes the odd man out, or at least he should be. Obviously Z, Demp, and Garza are in. Id love to see Cashner get a spot, but I dont see it happening. Wells and Gorz may not be Oswalt and Hamels at the back of a rotation, but both are younger and better than Silva. Hopefully management can see past the fact that they''re paying Silva a ton of money and Wells and Gorz next to nothing and do the right thing.
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2 guys who will really benefit from this trade are Chirinos and Fuld, who may very well be guaranteed spots on TBs 25 man roster, which never would have happened for them with the Cubs.
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For what its worth, the folks at Brewerfan seem to think we got a pretty good deal. http://brewersfandemonium.yuku.com/topic/24025/Garza-traded---Cubs-Archer-Guyer-Chirinos-Lee-Fuld--Tampa?page=2 Heres my favorite snippit
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The problem with judging prospect based trades is that you should judge it by the prospects status, you cant look into the future. Say Garza becomes a stud, and the Cubs win the world series, and none of the prospects really pan out. This will look like a great trade. On the other hand, say Garza becomes an OK 2-3 starter, and the prospects hit their ceilings. Then it looks like a bad trade. We cant look back at the trade several years from now and judge the trade that way, because its really not wither GMs fault. Really what Im trying to say is that hindsight is 20/20. When a GM trades a stud prospect and they become a star, thats looked back on as a bad trade. When the prospect doesnt pan out, its viewed as either a good trade or completely forgotten, depending on what they got in return.
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We gave up an Ichiro, a right-handed Dontrelle Willis, a Bengie Molina, and a guy that will be great for team chemistry and plays the right way. You mean a healthy Kaz Matsui. That's not an insult. Dont forget an untouchable spark.
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I remember reading in another thread that BA ranked our farm system the 8th best in baseball. I wonder where we are now. I wonder if we could have gotten away with this trade with Carpenter or Jay Jackson instead of Archer.
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Great dude but he'll be behind Fukudome, Byrd and Colvin on the OF depth chart. I remember seeing that on Youtube when it came out. Maybe he can jump over a car as well.
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Good trade or bad, if Hendry was willing to give up this type of package about a month ago, we could have had Greinke.
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I bet this guy went on Zoloft when we traded Ryan Theriot.
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Gotta love it... So we gave up 3 of our top 10 prospects and you give a [expletive] about Sam Fuld? What this deal basically does is puts makes us a distant 4th place team to a 4th place team.
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WTF, sure, Garzas a great pitcher, but far from an ace. The Rays are getting as comparable if not better package to the ones that landed Peavy, Greinke, and Holliday and were getting a solid number #2 starter. There better be something else in it for us if were giving up 4 of our top prospects, including 2 in the top 5. Say what you will, but It makes me sick, and we can no longer say at least Hendrys good at trades.
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I very surprised that Larry Walker didnt make it. The guy retired with 383 home runs, a .313 avg and a .965 OPS. Jeff Bagwell and Fred McGriff both should have made it too. Juan Gon and Raffy too, aside from the whole roids thing.
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He was alright, I guess.
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with Wood, Marmol, Guz, Marshall, Grabow, and plenty of inside options, anything short of a minor league deal with a ST invite would be overpaying for a reliever.