I know you're trying to defend Rich, but he's been pretty mediocre for some time now. true, 10th best WHIP among major league starters is just not getting it done He had a great April which is bringing down his numbers. April: 1.77 ERA, 0.87 WHIP May: 4.66 ERA, 1.31 WHIP June: 4.32 ERA, 1.17 WHIP But hes got the 10th best whip in the ML! Never mind the fact that he has been average or below average outside of his spectacular start. But thats ok, people can keep living off his one month, and making excuses for the rest of the year, its not Richs fault at all. This logic can extend to Zambrano as well. Whats your point? I havent seen anybody going around and constantly making excuses for why Carlos sucked. However, with Rich, nothing is his fault and he is God and can do no wrong. you do have a good point there