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  1. Lot's of other options: Contreras + Quintana to the Angels for Patrick Sandoval + Noe Ramirez Kimbrel (plus $7 million per year) + Bote for Leclerc Chatwood + Almora for Margot + prospect
  2. The other question is whether Zobrist would accept a lowball offer.
  3. I guess PTR figured out how to cure Theo's poor impulse control problem.
  4. So you're saying we could be the NL version of the Angels. A team of 2 or 3 superstars surrounded by a bunch of role players and no pitching.
  5. Obviously the lawyers are getting paid an hourly rate. At this speed, you would think this is a Supreme Court case.
  6. How much cost-cutting and austerity has to happen for the Cubs to acquire Betts next offseason? The budget will need to replace Lester and Quintana along with your desired Baez extension and raises (plus arbitration).
  7. In the last 4 years the Cubs payroll was 12% over the Cards, 88% over the Brewers, 74% over the Reds, and 102% over the Pirates. We were the Yankees of the NL Central. Why is that the measuring bar? We are a big market team in a division of mid-size market teams and outspend all of them by quite a bit every year. Fans complain when the Yankees or the Dodgers outspend their competition, but we've been doing it for quite awhile. Guys like Steinbrenner took his profits and put it into the team on the field while Wrigley used the Cubs as a tax write off.
  8. No, that definitely was a huge part of what they did. In the last 4 years the Cubs payroll was 12% over the Cards, 88% over the Brewers, 74% over the Reds, and 102% over the Pirates. We were the Yankees of the NL Central.
  9. Tomorrow's headline "Cubs sign Kevin Tapani to a contract for league minimum".
  10. Probably looking for a new sugar daddy after Trump and Jared go to jail.
  11. Not after you trade Bryant, Quintana, Chatwood, and Darvish.
  12. With those qualifications he might be a trade target for us if he was on another team.
  13. That sucks and they are a huge part of the problem, but also this is too weak. I don't want excuses. They have to do better. That's true Theo has made more than a few mistakes with personnel and payroll, but PTR's refusing to raise payroll at this point looks to be the downfall of this team as we know it. As most of us have posted, trading KB probably closes the window for 2-3 more years.
  14. The problem isn't necessarily the FO, it's more on ownership.
  15. I'm not sure they're raising the white flag: from MLBTR Indians Interested In Cesar Hernandez
  16. It is hard to imagine how trading Bryant is going to help the Cubs this year or next, but if you're talking about 3-4 years down the road it is possible. Getting Robles from the Nationals and then making some smart additional moves might work, but many posters have doubted that Robles would be included in the deal. If you're saying it doesn't take much Imagination, then throw some realistic names out there that we could acquire.
  17. They still need SP and 3B - How about a deal centered around Bote + Chatwood + ???? for Leclerc + ????
  18. Trading Bryant is really stupid and if it's followed by trading Schwarber and the return is Robles and a few solid young pitchers, then it makes more sense. It makes sense except that you'd never get Robles for Schwarber straight up. Robles would be in the Bryant deal.
  19. Trading Bryant is really stupid and if it's followed by trading Schwarber and the return is Robles and a few solid young pitchers, then it makes more sense.
  20. It's just a rough comparison. Bryant's actually projected to make like $40 million through arb or so over the next two years to Cozart's 1 year and ~$13 million so arguably the Cubs have even more to gain than the Angels did. The cap space offers flexibility over that time frame so the Cubs can reset, maybe even help them recoup some of the money they lost between renovations and launching the network I still don't understand how you compare Cozart (.247/.300/.399/.699 with avg. of 17 HR and 59 RBI) with Bryant (.284/.385/.516/.901 with 32 HR and 92RBI).
  21. Bryant may be one of the handful best players in baseball but in overall dollar value and contract situation he's a pretty mediocre asset, not to mention Boras Wormtongue. With the Cubs in cap heck, teams are going to correctly identify any absurd asks as posturing and just wait the Cubs out. Theo will get desperate soon enough and your demands for Robles/Turner will turn into a thank you for Luis Garcia, Joe Ross, and Jackson Rutledge. By all reports teams like the Nats and others really don't want to trade their young, cheap ML talent for Bryant. That's unfortunate but Theo getting creative may end up being taking less than an absurd ask to free up more cap space, using Bryant to free us from the salaries Darvish or Chatwood. If he can pull that off then a Garcia, Ross, and Rutledge return doesn't seem half bad talking Nats #2 prospect, cheap SP, and recent 1st round pick - way better than the Angels did for Cozart You didn't really use Cozart's trade value in a discussion about Bryant's trade value, did you? Also, what does Theo need cap space for if the team is going to be out of contention for the next 2-3 years?
  22. JMO that is just one way to look at it. Another is that Theo knows the Cubs will not be fixed with Bryant on the roster and need to move him. In that case, why be disagreeable? What if those teams don't want to give up players they have become attached to? Some info we know: Robles put up 2.5 fWAR/4 bWAR in 2019, is 5+ years younger than Bryant, and has at least double the years of precious sweet power and control an org can wield over him as leverages. Mathematically we can use this to figure that Robles is 25-40x more valuable than Bryant on paper If you can't get players of that caliber for one of the best players in baseball, then don't trade him. I was glad to hear the asking price for Contreras "was absurd", and KB's ought to be absurd too. Trading KB is probably going to set the Cubs back two years (at least) unless the return is very good young ML players and not just lottery tickets. If the offers aren't reasonable, then Theo has to get creative by trading our other assets (prospects, Bote, Chatwood, Schwarber, etc.)
  23. We all should all agree that trading Bryant is ridiculous, but if the Nationals want him the offer has to start with either Robles or Turner and include at least two other young players that would help the team in 2020-2021.
  24. Oh well, then I guess we're stuck with our 5 WAR 3B.
  25. Now that the Rangers are "likely out" of the Donaldson talk, they still need a 3B and SP. How about Bote and Chatwood for Tyler Phillips and Brock Burke?
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