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Let me see if I understand. The Red Sox have the following options: Play hard ball which causes them to NOT get any prospects, have their current disgruntled GM in a much diminished role (which probably has legal consequences), and the guy they've already said will take over as GM in position of taking over for said disgruntled GM while that guy is still there. Not to mention the PR nightmare it causes, along with the fact that they waste $6.5 mil and the GM walks after next year with no return a d takes whoever he wants with him. Or They give up said GM for what the Cubs are offering. The Cubs choices are: Hold out until the Red Sox cave. Or Go hire some other GM that will provide them with 95%+ of what Epstein does, save a couple mil per year and keep all of their prospects. And we're supposed to believe the Red Sox have the advantage in this?

The point is, dragging it out impacts the Cubs more. If the Cubs do not have a new GM in place by the end of the World Series, that's a major problem for them. Ergo, leverage Red Sox. The Cubs aren't in any bigger hole not having Theo by then than the Red Sox are if they still have him. In fact, the Cubs would probably be in better shape. They may not have their new FO fully in place, but at least it's not a war zone. i.e. the Red Sox have no leverage.

Stupid phone. Don't the Cubs also currently have a GM? I don't remember Bush being fired.

This is a hilarious read. I thought the SOSH people were supposed to be level headed "smart" posters. I mean I know their viewpoints are going to be unconsciously biased towards the Red Sox and vice versa for us, but some of the things they are saying are just plain ridiculous. They think that not only do the Sox have all the leverage, but they have significant leverage. Nah, I don't think so guys. The Sox have some leverage -- time. What motivation do they have to resolve this quickly? Or before opening day for that matter? Maybe I'm mistaken, but don't the Cubs also currently have a GM? Sure, it's not the perfect situation, but last I heard Randy Bush is still employed by the Cubs. They can come out and announce Cherington is the GM and Epstein's role is being sorted out, or he's a special assistant, or whatever they want. Meanwhile the Cubs have no GM. The Sox can say "take it or leave it" indefinitely. The Cubs don't have that luxury. I think you are kidding yourself. They don't want Theo and know that he doesn't want to be there. If he stays they are stuck with a high level employee that won't be GM and won't have a position. They are also stuck with with approximately $6MM obligation ($3.5MM buyout, $2.5MM+2012 salary) to Epstein. I know they have all kinds of money to waste (Crawford, Lackey, Beckett....) but why would they want to waste another $6MM only to have him leave at the end of the year anyways? The Red Sox have done a terrible job of trying to control the narrative of this whole transaction. Well as I said above I think this will get worked out... eventually. The Red Sox can leave it in limbo for much longer than the Cubs can, though. There's not the same urgency on their part. The Cubs absolutely have to have a GM in place by the end of the WS. If the Sox let Theo and the Cubs twist in the wind for a month or whatever, what's the harm to them? Other pressing issues can't be addressed? Why not? Other young executives won't want to work for them in the future? Please.

The words "breach of contract" come to mind. Theo has an employment agreement wherein he performs certain duties, has authority over members of the organization, and is the GM. Stripping him of those duties or naming someone else GM while Theo is still employed by the Red Sox as GM would cause them a whole mess of legal trouble. That's possible, but 100% speculative. We don't know what options the Sox do and don't have, contractually. It's far less speculative than what you're proposing as a possibility.

His source is the World Cup game? Wow.

Just give me a happy ending. You've already had the happy ending. This is the awkward after part where she wants to talk and you want to leave.

I put the emphasis on trolling. Agreed. He's always one of the first guys on this forum to start crap with other posters if they don't agree with his point of view. Been saying this for years. The dude is a cancer. What happened to keeping it civil?

Keep in mind, this was back when Eckstein was undervalued, prior to 2002. I was thinking it was stupid, then I looked it up and Eckstein gave them 6.6 WAR his first two years while he was cheap.

Holy [expletive], I didn't even catch it at first. Very well done.

Lackey just posted a 1.5 WAR (Fangraphs) and will be paid $15.950,000 per for the next three years. Their the same age, Lackey has a better recent history (has an 8.0 WAR over the last two years) and his peripherals were better than Zito's. Granted, neither are worth their contracts, but I'd rather take a chance on Lackey if they were able to work a straight trade for Soriano, especially given the money difference. However, I don't see it happening.

I think he hacked C.C.'s account and has been posting here the last couple of days in an effort to lessen the enthusiasm so that when he starts actually working for the Cubs, his awesomeness will be fully revealed and appreciated by all.

Bannable offense?

Who exactly deserves the credit and blame for successful/unsuccessful organizations if not the GM? Gerald Perry.

I'm trying to figure out why getting rid of a LFer is necessary to free up a spot for a CFer? I don't know what the plan is, but if they wanna bring him up quickly and keep Byrd, Byrd can slide over to LF and put him in CF.The main thing is just getting rid of Sorianos contract and him and we can browse a lot of other options which Im sure would be a lot more productive and beneficial than what Soriano brings. Plus with his age, he's just going to keep getting worse. Why not platoon Soriano and Colvin and let Byrd play RF? I'm OK with that. Not the best solution, but better than getting rid of Soriano and paying him to play somewhere else.

As was stated earlier, they don't need to get rid of Soriano to open a spot for Jackson.

I'd like them to keep Hill off the roster... wait, you were saying something else. ;)

I didn't realize he's from Brooklyn. Buchanan High, huh?

They will lose a game next year. A game??? I'll take 161-1.

The bizarre thing is that "people around the game" the majority of them who are talking are saying the opposite of what he's saying. He probably found two people working on the ground crew for the Dodgers that think Theo is staying.

What about the chips and dips?

That's AceCubbie's website. Edited for correcting stupidity.

The point was that he said that Sandberg has paid his dues and deserves a shot as a result, yet he supposedly was certain Quade was a mistake of a hire when it was made. Who do you want to see manage? I'll take Dave Martinez (or many other people) if it means Sandberg never sets foot in the Cubs dugout as manager of the Cubs. Based on? Based on Sandberg's comments alluding to what he would do as manager of the Cubs. Sandberg would be a horrible hire as manager.

The point was that he said that Sandberg has paid his dues and deserves a shot as a result, yet he supposedly was certain Quade was a mistake of a hire when it was made. Who do you want to see manage? I'll take Dave Martinez (or many other people) if it means Sandberg never sets foot in the Cubs dugout as manager of the Cubs.

I'm related to him. My grandfather's cousin.