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He definitely couldn't have been confused. As he walked out to shake Coughlin's hand, Mike Carey stood in front of him - stopping him - and told him the game wasn't over yet. At that point, Belichick either said screw you to Carey or just ignored him. Either way it shows a lack of class. There's no excuse for the Pats to not show a little respect (for the first time ever) and stay on the field for one more second. I disagree and see Mizzou's point. He obvioulsy thought the gmae was over, and by the time he made it all the way across the field, why turn around? just shake the mans hand let the game be over. The coach has to be the leader of his team. What if his team decided to follow his example and walk off the field? Then the Patriots would have forfeited the game. Instead, Belichick decided to abandon his 11 players that were on the field. Even if it's for one meaningless snap, your leader shouldn't bail until everybody else is ready to go.

Welker is completely classless too. Yeah, and I sort of agree with raw's point that Brady and Bruschi have talked a lot of trash. They're certainly almost all very arrogant to the point of absurdity. That doesn't bother me as much as hitting people after the whistle and trying to hurt people like Harrison and Wilfork do on a routine basis. Belichick I think it's pretty obvious why I think he's classless. So while I wouldn't put up any of the Patriots as role models, the ones on my first list just haven't done enough to warrant me not liking them, while the ones on the second list have done that and more.

i think free agents would be thrilled to fill in for the retired players Free agents that are as good as Bruschi or Harrison (or even Seau) are likely to cost a lot more than those 3. It will be hard for N.E. to get quality people to fit under the cap if those 3 retire. Maybe they'll be able to pick up a good free agent for one of those spots, but not all 3.

Next season will tell if this is just the greatest run of his life or his transformation into one of the great quarterbacks in the NFL. I think it's going to be more of the latter though. His decision making has improved so much from even earlier this season. I doubt he'll make it on to the Manning/Brady level, but I do think he'll be on or very close to the next level down next year.

Is this the only time we see this Patriots team? They have a lot of possible retirements, and both Moss and Samuel are free agents. They are complete cap experts and have a high draft pick, but I think it's going to be hard for them not to get worse this offseason. Samuel is almost certainly gone. Moss is gone unless he's willing to sign a team-friendly deal just to stick around, which is possible but would be so unlike most of Moss's career (and him changing his contract this past offseason doesn't really count, he was desperate to get out of Oakland). The funny thing is I still like a lot of individuals on this Patriots team. I've always been able to respect players like Brady, Faulk, Welker, Bruschi, Vrabel, etc. It's too bad they have so many of the absolute most classless people in the league to balance those out (Belichick and Rodney Harrison being the two worst examples, and Wilfork and Moss being 2 more. When Moss is only the 4th worst player on your team as far as character, you know you have problems :D).

They should be playing the Hail Mary defense on this play. Even if they pick up the first down, they'll use up half of their time and still won't be anywhere near a field goal. Their only chance is to throw it 40-50 yards down the field on this play like the last play.

Not quite yet...the Patriots still have 3 timeouts. I wouldn't put it past them to get into FG range, although it won't be easy.

I am a little shocked replay didn't challenge that 3rd down spot. It might not have been a first down, but it was much closer than they had it.

Well, you have two downs to make this. If you don't, you save your three timeouts and use them on all three Patriots downs, forcing them to decide what to do, and you may get one more shot. One thing you absolutely do not do is call a timeout between third down and 4th down here...you need to have both plays called during this timeout.

It was legal then, though. No, it wasn't. Those rules have been in place since the early 1980's. They had just started to be called less and less until the referees were instructed to start calling the rulebook again in 2004.

Even as a Colts fan I can admit that the Giants have been mugging the Patriots receivers all the way down the field. Of course, that's the same thing the Patriots did in the Patriots/Rams Super Bowl and the Colts/Patriots AFCCG in 03, where the Patriots were only able to win because of just holding on to the receivers constantly. So I can't feel too bad for them.

The Giants guy moved, but he never went in to the neutral zone so he was fine. Does this feel like the Patriots-Rams game to anyone else? A great offensive team faces a huge underdog, and both times the offensive team faces pressure they have never had before which causes a defensive struggle.

He's been the biggest player for them in the playoffs. They wouldn't have beaten San Diego without some of his incredible catches. He never gets the headlines, but he has been one of the toughest players to stop throughout their SB runs.

You've always been allowed to challenge those types of penalties. 12 men on the field, illegal pass (quarterbacks crossing the line of scrimmage), illegal touch (going out of bounds and then coming back in and catching the pass). All of those are considered objective calls because they are conclusive by replay.

That first angle didn't look conclusive either way. It was very close. Hopefully we get another better one.

Yea, it's not like the Pats got shafted when the Giants fumbled and somehow came up with the ball after Woods clearly recovered and was down. The refs are trying to give it to the Pats, for sure. he didnt recover that fumble, it was in his legs. he never even had possession of it. The Pats guy fell on it and the ball was underneath his chest/stomach. I don't know where you saw the ball in his legs. on FOX Guess you're watching a different FOX channel than the rest of the universe is. To be fair, if the video showed conclusively that the Pats recovered, Belichick had every opportunity to challenge. The Giants didn't rush to the line and so the Patriots had plenty of time to look at the video upstairs, so they must not have thought it was conclusive.

Why do the Giants run a play before the 2 minute warning? The fact that it was an incomplete pass means they only gave the Pats around 5-6 extra seconds, but it could have been a lot more than that. That's the type of gameclock management you can't have against a great team.

That was a terrible spot. He was a full yard short, but I didn't expect the Giants to stop the Patriots on 3rd and 1 anyway.

UConn takes down another ranked team, this time Pittsburgh 60-53. They've catapulted themselves from a bubble team to a #5 seed just in the last couple of weeks.

I'll likely be ridiculed for this, but here goes anyway... So, a message board poster has it right, and ALL of baseball has it wrong? Come on, it's really not too difficult to figure out. The reason that the 9th is a much more important role, and *usually* the best place for a closer is due to the fact that you are down to your final 3 outs, if any, by that time in the game. You give up the lead in the 7th, you still have 6 or 9 outs offensively. In the 9th, the game is over, or you have 3 outs to play with. That is INCREDIBLY different, and it's why great closers are hard to come by. Pressure is much different in that situation, and it's why guys like Farnsworth can be very good middle relievers and subpar closers. Okay, NSB groupthinkers, flame away. I just think you can split it into 2 different roles. To be a closer the biggest thing you need is someone who is mentally tough, who can handle being the one to blow the game and have all that media pressure on you and still go out and perform the next night. Typically, it happens to be one of your better relief pitchers. However, if you have multiple relief pitchers who can handle the role of being the closer, then you can stick the worse one in the 9th and save the best pitchers for other key parts of the game. That's something the Cubs did very well last year. They put Dempster in the 9th, who had the mental makeup to be a closer. He did well protecting leads with nobody on in the 9th, and they saved their most dominant pitcher Marmol to come in with runners on and get key strikeouts to end innings. The Cubs wouldn't have had nearly as good of a bullpen if they had switched Dempster and Marmol's roles, even though Marmol was the much better pitcher. This year the Cubs are blessed with closer candidates. Howry, Dempster, Marmol, and Wood all seem to have the makeup to take on the role. Out of all of those, the only one I hope they don't pick to be the closer is Marmol because I believe his high strikeout totals are best utilized in getting other pitchers out of jams. He is the one guy who doesn't need the security of a little room for error that starting an inning gives you, and that's why I don't think he should be the closer. You certainly can't just stick anybody at closer. It's an important role that has a unique skill set attached to it for a relief pitcher. If your best reliever is the only one with the makeup to be a closer, then it's much better for him to be the closer then to see somebody else implode at that spot. At the same time, that skill set does not have to mean that your closer is your best reliever, and IMO it's typically better if you have multiple closer options and you can save the better one to use at the biggest point of a game.

Was that Lou or Jim? If it was Lou, the lack of mentioning SS as something he's uncomfortable with is a good starting indication that he might try him there eventually.

Not exactly. Daryle Ward is a lot better than Casey. They aren't even in the same ballpark. Murton is also probably a better bench player, although that one is a lot closer. How are we comparing Ward to Casey? Casey has had twice the career of Ward. I forgot Murton was still on the team, or assuming he wouldn't be. Casey has been declining the last 3 years and has never been a bench player. Ward has been the best pinch hitter in the entire league the last two years, putting up a .926 OPS and a 963 OPS respectively. If you were signing one to be a bench player, you would choose Casey? I certainly wouldn't. I would pick the one who has had recent success in that role rather than the guy who has continued to decline.

One extra point is there is no way DeRosa is going to make it to 650 PA even if he did bat leadoff. He wore down in 2006 and was very tired in 2007, and had less than 600 PA both years. So you can probably take .3 or .4 off DeRosa's adjusted production because I don't see much of a chance he makes it over 600 this year either. That nails it about right though. Add in .6 or .7 wins or so with DeRosa being the supersub, and you get about a 3 win difference overall. Then the question simply becomes is how much 3 wins is worth in terms of prospects.

Not exactly. Daryle Ward is a lot better than Casey. They aren't even in the same ballpark. Murton is also probably a better bench player, although that one is a lot closer.

And he certainly is doing that right now. Only 1 hour left.