Well, if all we are going on is "maybe they'll all improve," then what can be said about them that can't be said about any team? Every team has players that "maybe could get better." But when you project what the Reds have, it's nothing special, just a lot of young adequacy. If you believe that, that's fine. But there are people that believe a guy (Votto) who in his first major league season, at age 24, put up .297/.368/.506/124 OPS+ is not considered "adequacy". If you don't like Bruce, that's fine, but show be where he doesn't project to being "special". I said Bruce replaced Dunn, that's pretty special. A 124 OPS from a first baseman is very, very adequate and very nothing special. From a SS it'd be awe-inspiring. From a 1B, it's blah. In Vottos first season (i hate to have to continue repeating this as if it's not significant), he put up the 8th best OPS among 1B's in the major leagues. Bruce replaces Dunn? He's 21, and his cieling is much higher than a HR hitter that gets about 120 hits per season. The fact that he can play CF (and the corner spots as well) makes him potentially very special. Bruce will hit for a higher average than Dunn and could very well get his slugging percentage to Dunn's level. However, his OBP will probably be significantly lower than Dunn. Votto is solid. Encarnacion doesn't hurt the offense, but he sure as hell hurts them defensively. Phillips has good power for a middle infielder, but will most likely always have a mediocre or bad OBP. Despite what he showed in limited action last season, Dickerson isn't going to hit for a lot of power. Keppinger is terrible. They'll get no offense from the catcher position. When you consider that they lost their best power and on-base threat from last season and that they were a mediocre offense last year with him, they probably won't be that great offensively this year, even with improvements from Bruce and Votto.