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The yankees have a terrible GM. They trade for Kevin Brown and others and sign pitchers like Wright for 8mil? Pathetic. Don't forget about Georgey. Cashmen gets grief for a lot of Steinbrenner's half-backed ideas. While Sheff has produced, Cashmen had a deal for Vlad that got bumped due to the Boss's whim. Vlad would have been a better long term choice.

How awesome is this, I saw the name modzilla in baseball discussions and came running. haha. EDIT: who is the adester? did i misss something in this thread? As did I. I'm very scared that I've agreed with most of what you've said lately. Truly frightened ;) Adebisi was great on OZ. Not so much at NSBB. He dropped an "S" bomb and was generally acting like a jerk/troll.

I agree. However, my opinion is likely invalid because I'm a victim of groupthink. Well, if you feel that way, maybe ignoring it would be a good idea. You referred to ignoring it before. Isn't this validation for you? I'd think you'd be all warm and fuzzy. I mean, every instance of groupthink will give you more reason to avoid this site, since you have such a disdain for the people that run it and post on it. Thus, if enough of us confess our groupthink sins and lament our posting shortcomings, perhaps you will be able to save countless numbers of wayward posters at other sites. I'm sure your dead on observations of posting patterns would be greeted warmly at SOSH.

I agree. However, my opinion is likely invalid because I'm a victim of groupthink.

http://www.amuseyourself.com/errors/ LOL!

There's a lot of truth in that. Good post. this is getting borderline childish.....minus the borderline part.... The ignore feature really came in handy today.

Then don't make a declarative statement in the thread title. I'm sure a number of posters would appreciate it if you edited a question mark in the title.

Bye, muchacho.

Why PH a .252 lefty in Hollandsworth, when you have a .296 lefty in Walker on the bench? Does Walker have worse match-up numbers? Is Walker hurt?

Exactly what I was thinking.

LOL! Through 5 innings, Halsey with 48 pitches, Williams with 97! Egad.

I wonder...., whom that would be? Herm Franks? Dallas Green? Anyone got any idea? How old is Zim? EDIT: Forget it. I was going by age, not tenure.

Manny isn't going anywhere. The BoSox couldn't get the same impact value in return. Disgruntled or not, the guy is still producing. If the Sox don't want him, they can place him on waivers him again at the end of the season and see if anyone bites. He is too big of an influence on that offense to let him go.

ARod will eclipse that mark.

C'mon Z, nobody is expecting perfection...just common sense. Or at least learning from his mistakes. It was total exaggeration (except for the peanut vendors: Wrigley's are second to none), but is there any other position on the field that it's easier to second guess than manager? Some people just love to whine and try and look smarter than the manager. But when whoever replaces Dusty gets hired, it'll be the same stuff different day. Or they'll be whining about some other set of problems...but they'll still be whining. And some people will never stop whining about having to listen to people whine. Sometimes, it's kind of cool to NOT have to hear your dissenting opinion in every single thread. Why do Dusty critics have to be characterized as whiners in the first place? Christ, haven't we gotten passed this yet?

Is Murton hot because he's facing lefties or would he be hot no matter who he bats against? Before answering, he's struck out five times in 10 at-bats against righties. Hasn't he also gotten 3 hits in those 10 ABs?

Does anyone NOT think Burnitz will be a Cub next year?

If something go lost in the translation, I apologize. My announcement would have been made based on the "Hawkins Sucks" chant. I have no objection to booing.

Go ahead and laugh. Your admission to the stadium is based on abiding by the terms set forth by the team. If you want to openly abrogate a rather simple, civil request from your host, that is an issue for you to deal with. And, this isn't the east coast. I doubt many would disagree that a different attitude exists on the east coast than in Chicago. Just as a different attitude exists in the midwest than on the west coast. Not better, just different. Things that are readily acceptable in Yankee Stadium or Fenway don't necessarily need to translate to Wrigley Field. My concern about that idea isn't whether Wrigley would be justified to do that; I know that that have the right. But enforcing it would be like the seatbelt law. It's a good idea to follow it, maybe a couple people will change, and ultimately there won't be any enforcement. I see really no change for the price of Wrigley being labeled as some "G-rated playground run by prudes," as unfairly as that would be. . . You can't enforce such a thing. Such requests are made in the hope that people will feel embarrassed by their actions and respond accordingly. People just need reminders on behavior sometimes. Where is the harm? At worst, the fans continue with the same behavior. At best, some, if not all, stop. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Really? You think they'd do that and that it would work? Wouldn't all of that just contribute to drawing attention to it, like in your last sentance? This is one of those things that is just unfortunate. I doubt there's really anything that can fix it. I'm just saying if Dusty was that insulted by it, if he truly feels that it detrimentally affects his ability to bring players to Chicago, then he could have had an announcement made at the game to address those who actually were being insulting. Laying down a quote in the paper doesn't ensure that those same people will get the message. Why is it that you single Dusty out when he didn't say anything nearly as negative as Lee and Dempster, who seemed a lot more insulted? For one, Dusty appeared just as insulted as the other two from the quotes I read. Two, I've only seen coaches or managers make requests to crowds for changes in behavior. Three, he is the only person I saw quotes attributable to the acquisition of players, which is a responsibility he shares in part with Hendry. Thus, if the booing is detrimental in that respect, I would expect more responsibility in taking action from him than Dempster or Lee.

Go ahead and laugh. Your admission to the stadium is based on abiding by the terms set forth by the team. If you want to openly abrogate a rather simple, civil request from your host, that is an issue for you to deal with. And, this isn't the east coast. I doubt many would disagree that a different attitude exists on the east coast than in Chicago. Just as a different attitude exists in the midwest than on the west coast. Not better, just different. Things that are readily acceptable in Yankee Stadium or Fenway don't necessarily need to translate to Wrigley Field.

Really? You think they'd do that and that it would work? Wouldn't all of that just contribute to drawing attention to it, like in your last sentance? This is one of those things that is just unfortunate. I doubt there's really anything that can fix it. I'm just saying if Dusty was that insulted by it, if he truly feels that it detrimentally affects his ability to bring players to Chicago, then he could have had an announcement made at the game to address those who actually were being insulting. Laying down a quote in the paper doesn't ensure that those same people will get the message.

Personally I don't want my kids around when fans are yelling "Sucks". I've always considered it different than stinks and the meaning is vulgar IMO. Neither do I. Thus, had the Cubs addressed the situation publicly at the time instead of allowing it to linger for three days, perhaps the serenade would have stopped sooner. Instead, crying about it in the paper doesn't solve the problem or address the 38,000 morons at the game who were being insulting.

My objection with the Erstad scenerio primarily came from my opinion that Estrada was in front of the plate (toward the diamond) and, thus, not in a position where he would expect or prepare for contact. Barajas was blocking the plate, so even though Sammy's cleats came in high, Barajas had an opportunity to protect himself and prepare for a collision.

I don't condone the "Hawkins Sucks" chant at all. But, if the Cubs were so displeased and insulted by it, the could have made a request to have an announcement made. Or, a microphone could have been brought to the dugout for Dusty to make a PA announcement that things like that don't go on in Wrigley. Its been done by coaches/managers before during professional games. Heck, they had three freaking nights to come up with the idea. Crying and moaning in the paper after the fact just draws further attention to it.