All I'm saying is that valuing your best player for scraps to teach players a lesson or whatever may seem all the rage and therefore realistic, but a realistic return requires the Cubs accepting the offer. Teams would fall over themselves to give up the Zac Gallens, Dustin Mays, Alex Verdugos, Spencer Howards, Alec Bohms etc for Kris Bryant if, realistically, those players could pull it off but they can't. Bryant hasn't been that 6+ fWAR player in two seasons, an injury year and a followup borderline 5 fWAR season, but has had more 6+ WAR seasons than <6 WAR seasons still. Alex Verdugo didn't halve that 2019 during a supposedly pre-peak season, at an age that will count as a peak for Bryant, but might approach that one day as he gets older...Beyond age and contract situation all these guys deemed realistic, as well as most of the supposedly unrealistic ones, get really shaky You seem to think that Cubswin11 was arguing in favor of trading Bryant for someone like Verdugo, or in favor of trading him at all. Why?