Sammy Sofa
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There has to be something to loot for there to be widespread looting.
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Yes and no. Professional athletes are pretty notorious for mismanaging their money, plus it's not like this team is a slam dunk to win it all. There's always going to be competitive teams out there willing to pay, and there's always the incentive to play for non-competitive teams offering a LOT of money.
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Holy crap, you gotta hang around here more often with this type of amazing insight. It seems so obvious, but I keep reading here and elsewhere how people aren't sure if Miami will have the depth to win, or that there might be problems with James and Wade co-existing. It's silly. Basketball at this level has always been about who has the most and best stars. Miami will probably have two of the best three players in the league. That's all you need. They could give me 48 minutes a game at PG and still win 50+ games. But this isn't about just winning 50+ games, or 60+ games.
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Holy crap, you gotta hang around here more often with this type of amazing insight.
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I think there are some very astute comments with that that point out how the analysis seems to be working without the idea that any of the three would be playing at a level of "diminished returns." It seems to be projecting their numbers from when they've been the alpha dogs of their teams with not enough adjustment. Again, I'm not downplaying the amazing talent these guys would still have playing together, but a lot of the projections out there seem to be operating under the assumption that all three will be playing as they did in the past when they were THE guys on the team and that the roles will just naturally fall into place. I don't think that's necessarily a given. Yes, there's likely way, way too much talent for it to actually sidetrack the team, but it'll be interesting to see how it actually plays out.
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This what you're not getting; we're not talking about "studs." Capable role players and bench players aren't cheap. No, they don't need to have guys like that taking up every spot in the lineup, but they need at least a few and that's going to cost them a lot of money. No see, I do get that. I also named a couple of them and it's also possible that Pat has people waiting in the wings. Dwyane is also very good at recruiting people, and tampering, so it's not completely out of the realm of possibility to get people cheap just to play here. I'm not saying it's a forgone conclusion, but it could happen. Sure, anything COULD happen, but it's just so ridiculous unlikely that it's really not worth discussing. You just don't see it happening. This is a business and these players are here make money. Just because you named names doesn't mean that any of them would actually play for around the minimum. Even guys like that expect significantly more.
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Right, Wade's injury history is something that's really been drowned out in all of this.
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I'm admittedly not an expert on the NBA salary cap, but how is that possible? If the big 3 take 15 mil each they can sign Miller. Then they need to sign players on the minimum. Still possible but hard. What you're describing is laughably unrealistic. No, it's not impossible, but it would be insane if it happened, especially if Beasley is still on the team.
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This what you're not getting; we're not talking about "studs." Capable role players and bench players aren't cheap. No, they don't need to have guys like that taking up every spot in the lineup, but they need at least a few and that's going to cost them a lot of money.
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No, it's really not. Valuable players aren't going to sign for peanuts. Carlos Arroyo can sign for minimum. Raja Bell has said numerous times he wants to play in Miami. They can sign Joel Anthony, who knows how much love Udonis has for Miami? There are people that will sign. The people that are stupid/desperate enough to sign for league minimum (or thereabouts) will be terrible. If people are saying the Miami will be able and willing to pay the luxury tax to add on to the team, OK, fine. Insisting that they can build an acceptable supporting cast with salaries in the area of the league minimum is just absurd.
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In Game 1 of the 2007 NBA Finals the Cavaliers started Sasha Pavlovic, Drew Gooden, Larry Hughes, and Zydrunas Ilgauskas with Mike Brown on the bench. I think that qualifies and then some. The Heat can't afford players the caliber of 2007 Gooden, Hughes, or Ilgauskas. No, all players will sign at or close to the minimum to bask in the glory of the holy trinity. YOU AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION.
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No, it's really not. Valuable players aren't going to sign for peanuts.
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Oh, OK. You honestly think that no one will join these guys for a title? Granted, it won't be superstars but Miami will get people to take the minimum for a chance to win a title. Uh, no, this isn't a charity. It's one thing to see people take realistic relative pay cuts and another to assume that key role players will join for the minimum.
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Oh, OK. He has a point. People can't swear up and down that Lebron's an idiot to go back to Cleveland because they're a 20 win team without him, then say Lebron + Wade + Bosh + scrubs can't compete But not everyone is saying that. Trading one flawed situation for another flawed situation isn't necessarily an immediate improvement just because the specific flaws are different.
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Oh, OK.
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I'm really let down that you of all people left the Nets out.
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All three can't possibly be on the floor the entire game. Look, it's clearly an incredibly impressive trio, but it's not like they won't be vulnerable. They can't play the entire game with all three of them out there, and God help them if one of LeBron or Wade goes down with an injury. The thing that strikes me with this arrangement if it goes down is that all the pressure is going to be there to win it all now, and this isn't a team set up to win it all now.
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For the Bulls? The draft pick they got in return.
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The short term is pretty critical given who we're talking about here.
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From Bill Simmons' column today: “I think it’s a cop-out. Any super-competitive person would rather beat Dwyane Wade than play with him. Don’t you want to find the Ali to your Frazier and have that rival pull the greatness out of you? That’s why I’m holding out hope that LeBron signs with New York or Chicago (or stays in Cleveland), because he’d be saying, “Fine. Kobe, Dwight and Melo all have their teams. Wade and Bosh have their teams. The Celtics are still there. Durant’s team is coming. I’m gonna go out and build MY team, and I’m kicking all their asses.” That’s what Jordan would have done. Hell, that’s what Kobe would have done.”
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Rock on, B.S..
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Yeah, I've been getting all kinds of sold on the Bulls getting Morrow.
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I sorta would prefer if he went anywhere other than Cleveland, even if it means not coming to Chicago. If he doesn't go somewhere new, Christ, this whole thing was so anti-climactic. This was shaping up to be an amazing, insane FA season, and it ends up the only changes are guys like Amare and Boozer and Bosh singing to new teams? YAWN. GIVE ME MADNESS.
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Lou and Hendry aren't the trainers and medical staff, you idiots.
