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Mark Prior wanted a raise. He wanted 3.5 mill plus to sit on his butt until July at least. No, he wanted it as part of a deal where he'd ideally be pitching the 2nd half of the year and onwards. Do you REALLY think his goal is to get paid to not pitch? Stop for a second, think about that, and then answer. He's not negotiating for the first few months of 2008. He's negotiating for the next step of his baseball career. I don't think that is his goal, but thats definitely part of his problem. Hes not willin to budge on this, and he doesen't care about it. If he REALLY thought that he'd be able to come back and pitch games, then he would have accepted the contract. But he didn't because he knows theres more then a good chance that he won't pitch in the majors in 2008. BTW, hes not negotiating for the next step of his career, because he has the prove himself healthy first in order to get a long term deal. Teams won't give him alot of money or years, to be on the DL. Either way, Mark Prior has to prove himself a healthy baseball player, which is why this entire contract situation stinks of money and his unwillingness to work with the Chicago Cubs.

Mark Prior wanted a raise. He wanted 3.5 mill plus to sit on his butt until July at least.

A 4.02 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP is "damn above average"? I get that in 2003, the kid was just dominant. In 2005, he was pretty good as well. 2004 might count as decent, though a #2 pitcher racking up those numbers in less than 120 IP hardly counts as "damn above average." Hell, if you're gonna trumpet Prior's good years, you're much better off pointing out 2002 than you are pointing out 2004. I'd happily take Prior at what he'll likely make for those 2004 numbers over guys like Marquis or Dempster. And the end of the 2004 season he was clearly back on track. Besides, he was making peanuts. Rating him as a "#2" starter is ultimately meaningless. If he was being paid to be one, alright, fine...but he was being paid a tiny sum in MLB terms. Yeah, you would. You'd pay him $2 million, hoping that once he finally is able to pitch again in July that somehow, magically, after not pitching in almost two years that he'll duplicate what he did FOUR YEARS AGO. Only a Cubs fan could even dream something like this up.... Really? For a pitcher as young as he is, with a ceiling as high as his and as much money as this organization has, that's nothing. I'm not looking for "magic" at all...I was hoping tha this club would be able to take a chance on an injured pitcher, as they have many times, for relatively little money, in the hope of some return. The upisde of tha with Prior, as opposed to others they've done it with (Dempster, Williamson, Miller, etc.) is that his ceiling is so high that even a Prior with reduced capability would be incredibly useful, especially at that price. Combine that wih him finally having surgery where something was determined to be wrong and ideally "fixed," it's not too much of a stretch to think he could have possibly been productive at some point in 2008, and cheap. Unfortunately, it appears something gummed up that idea. Please explain what is so fantastic about this. Few people were expecting him to come back and pitch like he did before 2004. But to talk like anything less is useless, especially at how little he would cost, is absurd. I think what you're failing to understand, is that money was offered to Prior. Everybody in the world knows that. He didn't accept. For whatever reason Prior walked. If Prior wanted to stay in Chicago, and Hendry turns him down, thats a different story. Prior flat out, wanted a raise. And he was rejected.

A 4.02 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP is "damn above average"? I get that in 2003, the kid was just dominant. In 2005, he was pretty good as well. 2004 might count as decent, though a #2 pitcher racking up those numbers in less than 120 IP hardly counts as "damn above average." Hell, if you're gonna trumpet Prior's good years, you're much better off pointing out 2002 than you are pointing out 2004. I'd happily take Prior at what he'll likely make for those 2004 numbers over guys like Marquis or Dempster. And the end of the 2004 season he was clearly back on track. Besides, he was making peanuts. Rating him as a "#2" starter is ultimately meaningless. If he was being paid to be one, alright, fine...but he was being paid a tiny sum in MLB terms. Yeah, you would. You'd pay him $2 million, hoping that once he finally is able to pitch again in July that somehow, magically, after not pitching in almost two years that he'll duplicate what he did FOUR YEARS AGO. Only a Cubs fan could even dream something like this up.... Amen.

Hahhahahaha, if somebody gritty and Texan said that he'd be a total team player, but since he's some Cal-eye-forn-eye-aaaaa pretty boy, he's not a team player. \ No...everybody would call him a Hillbilly. The funniest thing about this, is that 2008 will be his rehab year, and he prolly wont pitch more then 5 games, or pitch AT ALL. So with that being said, guessing he'll pitch in 2009.....he woulden't have pitched a complete full season in what...........6 YEARS!!! People are sad, that the Cubs aren't giving him a 2-3 year deal. Excuse me but.....hahahahaha. Hes gonna mooch in 2008, and in 2009 MAY have the health to actually pitch. Sorry, but with him mooching 1 year, and then not pitching a full complete season in 6 years.......GOODBYE! So was D-Lee a "mooch" in 2006? What specific time limit dtermines who is simply injured and who is a "mooch?" He becomes a mooch by thinking green and wanting a big deal with alot of money. He becomes a mooch by knowing that hes gonna sit out half a season, and rehab the other half, but still wanting more money elsewhere. I dont think he'll sign with the Padres. The Padres are a cheap franchise, and he could've gotten more money with us. I bet he ends up on a big market team willing to throw him bucks. This is a person that could've stayed a Chicago Cub, but thinks he can get money and years elsewhere. So, in short, you're going to completely guess or make everything up. Wrong. Its a fact he won't pitch until July. And its a fact that once he comes back, he'll be rehabbing. Its a fact that he snubbed the Chicago Cubs as a result of a contract dispute.

Hahhahahaha, if somebody gritty and Texan said that he'd be a total team player, but since he's some Cal-eye-forn-eye-aaaaa pretty boy, he's not a team player. \ No...everybody would call him a Hillbilly. The funniest thing about this, is that 2008 will be his rehab year, and he prolly wont pitch more then 5 games, or pitch AT ALL. So with that being said, guessing he'll pitch in 2009.....he woulden't have pitched a complete full season in what...........6 YEARS!!! People are sad, that the Cubs aren't giving him a 2-3 year deal. Excuse me but.....hahahahaha. Hes gonna mooch in 2008, and in 2009 MAY have the health to actually pitch. Sorry, but with him mooching 1 year, and then not pitching a full complete season in 6 years.......GOODBYE! So was D-Lee a "mooch" in 2006? What specific time limit dtermines who is simply injured and who is a "mooch?" He becomes a mooch by thinking green and wanting a big deal with alot of money. He becomes a mooch by knowing that hes gonna sit out half a season, and rehab the other half, but still wanting more money elsewhere. I dont think he'll sign with the Padres. The Padres are a cheap franchise, and he could've gotten more money with us. I bet he ends up on a big market team willing to throw him bucks. This is a person that could've stayed a Chicago Cub, but thinks he can get money and years elsewhere.

Hahhahahaha, if somebody gritty and Texan said that he'd be a total team player, but since he's some Cal-eye-forn-eye-aaaaa pretty boy, he's not a team player. \ No...everybody would call him a Hillbilly. The funniest thing about this, is that 2008 will be his rehab year, and he prolly wont pitch more then 5 games, or pitch AT ALL. So with that being said, guessing he'll pitch in 2009.....he woulden't have pitched a complete full season in what...........6 YEARS!!! People are sad, that the Cubs aren't giving him a 2-3 year deal. Excuse me but.....hahahahaha. Hes gonna mooch in 2008, and in 2009 MAY have the health to actually pitch. Sorry, but with him mooching 1 year, and then not pitching a full complete season in 6 years.......GOODBYE!

Lol. Yea what a baby he was when he was constantly trying to come back from being hurt, while still being hurt and needing surgery. What a puss. This is a man who was paid over the past 3 years for doing *nothing* He never came back, something always ached, and then when it was time for him to step up as a "good guy" and stay with the franchise that nursed him along over all these years he splits because he wants MORE money. If this was a person at your job that acted in such a manner and wanted a raise after being on medical leave for 3 years, you'd be up in arms.

cya bum! Zero respect for Prior. It seemed as if he acted like a big baby ever since his numerous injuries began. I remember stretches of the past few years of not even hearing his name mentioned, prolly because as mentioned above he wasen't around. Now he can leech off of the Padres who will pay him pennies because they are a terrible cheap franchise.

I hate those "Around the Horn" "PTI" shows. On the other hand Fukudome looks promising. Has that classic Japanese swing, seems to make good contact. Is he a typical #2 hitter?

who exactly do the Padres even have to deal? All their prospects are garbage

It's going to come down to the Tigers or the Red Sox once again this season. Way to go Hendry!

Dead Kennedys song!!!

choking gutless dogs

OJEDA = MVP OF THE SERIES

I cant stand Dane Cook in these commercials.

hahahahahahaha

It should never boil down to the umpire. The Chicago Cubs just completely suck the big one.

man, the cubs look TERRIBLE as a complete team. Blow it up and start over. What a terrible showing.

Trachsel is a wounded horse that needs to be put out of its misery. Please DFA him.

this thread is awesome. ALL THE RUNS IN THE WORLD WONT WIN US A WORLD SERIES

please just pitch to contact dumbass zambrano. keeps trying to K everyone

keep losing losers.

Good season Cubs, now lose every game so we can get a decent draft pick.

at least they are going down with the ship. It's better then false hope.