SpongeWorthy

Again, I don't know what this guy does well. I want to see another guard in the league that misses as many wide open shots as Kirk, especially with the reputation that Kirk has as a 'good outside shooter.' He really is one of the best defenders in the league. I was down on him big time going into the Boston series but the guy is an outstanding defender. He does need a much better jumpshot given the limitations of his game.

Miss more wide open mid range jumpers guys.

Does Hinrich not work on his shot in the offseason? He's not nearly a good a spot up shooter as he was a few years ago. He's a decent jumpshot away from being the best combo guard in the league.

Since I didn't see the 1st quarter of this game I'm pretty sure I haven't seen Salmons make a jumper so far this season.

I don't see much value in him without a slash and kick game. He should be playing in spurts with Rose if he's going to play at all. Also, Noah needs to be out on the floor for 35+ every game. The whole team is better. He's not a threat on offense but we're better with him on the floor. No reason he shouldn't be logging heavy minutes.

These two teams are the epitome of mediocre.

Pargo's worthless.

We have little 3 point shooting to speak of this season.

It's too much with Taj, Vinny. He's doing ok but you don't sit Noah out for nearly an entire quarter to give him burn.

Jackson finally got in the end zone. And hooray for not getting the MIN/GB game on TV!

yeah, did usc lose a lot to the nfl last year? i expected their offense to dip this year with sanchez leaving, but have been really surprised at how poorly their defense has played this year. it hasn't just been tonight either; notre dame moved the ball well and so did oregon st. Cushing, Maualuga, Matthews, and Moala were all drafted in the first two rounds. 8 players on defense drafted overall. I was sort of lulled into thinking the defense wasn't gonna miss too much of beat because they had no problems until Notre Dame in the 4th quarter. Even then, I thought a pro style passing attack was what's gonna hurt them not the spread option game. Obviously, I was wrong on that. This is pretty humbling though. Talent wise, there's no way USC's D should allow Oregon 600+ yards of offense when the other D's on Oregon's schedule have performed better. There's been huge schematic issues tonight.

I think what's most shocking to me is that USC hasn't made any adjustments to stop letting Oregon rip off 10+ yards every play. I knew our offense wasn't going to keep up with the Ducks pace but I thought they'd at least slow them down a bit.

Welp. Nice work Oregon. Every play they're running looks like how you diagram it on the chalk board. I guess Carroll's D was bound to get owned like this one day. Christ.

Carroll's getting owned by Chip Kelly so far. 2nd half adjustments plz.

I see that Duke still has to play GT, Miami, and Wake. That'd be hilarious though.

Duke can win the ACC?

The Sagarin predictor has Iowa at #12. The rating he's forced to use in the BCS has them at #1. The predictor is more accurate, btw.

Tougher schedule = better than ?

I don't really have a problem with saying Iowa's played the toughest schedule of the unbeatens while saying I think they're an inferior team to most of the unbeatens. If they go undefeated and Texas drops, go ahead and put em in the title game. I think they'd get spanked but I wouldn't have a problem putting them there.

Florida kicker just drilled a 56 yarder.

I don't think anyone hates Iowa. We're just trying to point out that your team has many cracks in the armor and would probably get beat handily by a team like Alabama, Florida, or Texas. Id say you guys are pissing and moaning more about rankings. No one is denying that there are "cracks in the armor" - but the other top 3 teams all have flaws as well. Florida just hasnt been exposed yet, and Texas is not that much better than Iowa. Alabama is the only team I would put above Iowa, and I still say we could beat them on gameday. Id say winning by 18 points when you lost Richardson, Robinson, and Sandeman last week aint bad. Iowa has become very familiar with the term "next man in line" this year, and keeps winning. The only people that think Iowa is better than any of those teams is a certain percentage of the Hawkeye fanbase.

If Indiana had any capability of making them pay for it it'd be a moot point. Stanzi plays this bad against 20 other teams and you'd be calling for his head. He's played pretty bad against a lot of teams. I'm not one who suggested pulling him after 5 picks. End of the day, he's won most of his games, and were 9-0. He's also the reason anyone with a set of eyes can tell Iowa isn't an elite team. They'll get detonated by OSU or in a BCS game unless Stanzi gets a lot better.

8-0 teams aren't garbage. sorry. and the #4 team in the country doesnt struggle against indiana. and northern iowa. and arkansas state. Um, Iowa is blowing IU out. You really think saying Iowa struggled with IU is an inaccurate statement?

If Indiana had any capability of making them pay for it it'd be a moot point. Stanzi plays this bad against 20 other teams and you'd be calling for his head.

I'm happy you guys are ranked. 6 of 11 teams are ranked. Sweet. Damn it, you just reminded me how annoying it is that this whole thread is going to be Big Ten slurping. (They'll likely deserve it, granted, but it'll still be annoying.) The Big Ten has a good argument for being the best conference in basketball. 9/11 of the teams have tourney hopes to start the season, they have top end teams in MSU and Purdue, the only argument against them is Iowa and Indiana, but I'm not really sure there's a conference that doesn't have an IU and Iowa. It's certainly better than the Big East slurping that went on last year because of all their high end teams(all the while ignoring the utter dreck at the bottom) which amounted to 0 teams in the Championship. I think ND(and Georgetown) makes the tourney btw on a dead cat bounce and a down year for the Big East. There are a lot of good arguments for the Big Ten being better than the Big East. Number of teams in the championship game of a one-and-done tournament is not one of them. It surprises me that on a board full of people who generally agree that playoff baseball is a crapshoot that so many people are eager to jump on a one-and-done tournament performance as justification for one conference over another. The better team wins quite a bit more in basketball though.