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Hendricks gets 4.175, per Nightengale. Was projected at 4.9 by MLBTR. Evidently, the deadline is 1PM EST, so just an hour left.

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Actually, his was 4.3, they only missed him by 50k. I really hope Dierkes is right on the file and trial stuff. Since Theo hasn't ever taken a guy to a hearing before, it'd mean we get all these guys signed today and we have a completely clear idea of exactly how much money we've got to throw at Darvish or whoever.

Eh, I'm not saying he's a perennial guy or anything. Yeah, you've got Kyrie, Simmons, Wall, Lowry, and Kemba in the East. With no idea of who may be coming up that's 15 years old right now and who may or may not stay healthy or even stay in the East. I think Dunn can wind up as a guy getting 16-18 PPG, with 5-6 RPG, and 8-10 APG, with good D. The shooting stats conceivably will get better once he isn't the only guy on the floor capable of getting his own shot. Hell, that'll happen once LaVine gets his legs under him, to a small extent, this year even. Are those numbers All Star worthy? I'd say that on occasion, he's a possibility. Figure he gets in there once or twice, over the next 7-8 years. He's shown a ton more than what anyone thought and I don't think he's done improving at all. Is he THE guy on the future Bulls contender? No. Is he a glue guy like Rondo, during the KG/Pierce/Allen Celts teams? I say yes.(just not a 4 time All Star, like Rondo was)

El oh El. Are you trying to troll? You normally seem very grounded and I know you're knowledgeable. But, if you admittedly aren't watching a ton of games, what're you basing your opinion on? Dunn has some extremely nice upside at this stage. He's not a 50% shooter obviously. But, he's shown a better shot than most thought. He's definitely a starter. If you don't think he's got All Star capability, that's one thing. I can understand that. But, to say he's not a starter, from what I can gather is based off a poor shooting game, with you not watching a bunch.....That's much, much harder to understand.....

If what Dierkes says is correct, we'll see a TON of signings. Because there's evidently no negotiating one year deals between now and the hearings. Plus, at a hearing, its an either/or ruling. Clubs number or players number. And there's a decent descrepancy between those in some cases. Saw a Sun Times article saying there's a rumor that KB's deal will get announced tomorrow at the opening ceremony. Which I'd suspect is true, if there's no more negotiating between filing and hearing. In his case, you'd probably see the team filing at 6 or 7 and Boras filing at 11 or 12. That's too big of a difference to chance the arbitor ruling in favor of KB. It'd add an extra 2-3 mill to our LT, if we lost. Again, if, and its a big IF, Dierkes is correct, then I'd suspect we sign each of our arb eligible guys tomorrow. And we'll know EXACTLY where we stand in conjunction to the LT.

No idea on its validity, but that type of offer makes sense, due to the lower AAV. Especially if there's some opt outs included. I'd actually be OK with that type of offer from the Cubs.

If you were watching the Knicks game, it wasn't a great representation of his offensive game. He IS still inconsistent, but he's shown a better outside shot than I'd have thought and his mechanics lend you to believe he can show more consistency going forward too. He's also great at getting to the rim and has been a solid finisher for the most part. His defense is excellent, he does turn it over too much. That said, I think his upside is an All Star. I don't think he's ever going to be a consistent one or anything, but I do think he'll make one or two. I thought he needed plenty of time this year, figured we'd need all year to see if he had the ability to be a starting caliber guard on a playoff team. I think he's already proved that he can be THAT. Now, its just seeing how much more than that he'll be.

Nice.

Darvish's MLBTR projection was 6/160, so that's basically only taking a year away. Arrieta's projection was 4/100. I think if they're getting less than anticipated you're talking about Darvish maybe dipping into 4 years, and Arrieta definitely not getting 9 figures. Eh, I want no part of Jake, but I've always figured Boras would get him nine figures. I was figuring him for 5/125 from someone. That's about what I figured Darvish would get though. 6/160ish. I don't think Darvish will have to settle for 4 years and I don't see Jake settling for 3. But, they both got the short end of FA, with teams gearing up for next year.

I kind of think we may wind up seeing each of Darvish and Jake signing deals for less than originally anticipated. Yu for 5/125 or so, Jake for 4/100 or so. Maybe each get a vesting option. But BOTH get an opt out after year 1, to potentially put themselves back into the market, when more teams are expected to be spending.

Fun game. Lauri is a damn stud. Niko needs to be gone on the 15th. And Lopez, Holiday, and anyone else not named Lauri, Kris, or Zach that's got the nerve to try and win games.

Astros are one of the 5 teams referenced in the tweet Darvish is responding to. Crap, I glossed over them. Gocubs probably is right.

I'm assuming he means Astros.

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Gotta think drafting Nelson or McGlinchey at 8 could build some steam now.

If the end result is developing Dunn, Lavine, Ports and Markannan into good players and having a couple of picks than it could be worse. The NBA is basically an everything has to work out perfectly league in order to win titles Of course it could. There are 6 impact players in this draft though and we need to be in that group. Those 4 guys can develop and us still get in that group. It may be our only shot at drafting this high, which is good. But, because of that, they need to assure themselves one high pick at least.

I want Niko gone quick. But sadly, I'm not sure losing him does a ton to the tank. Portis has been damn good and the more time he gets, the better he's going to be. Hopefully, we move Holiday, Grant, and Lopez too. Losing the depth is what's going to hurt our chances of winning games the most, barring injuries. Would love to get a 1st for Niko and one more from taking on bad salary. If the Niko pick is in the 15-20 range and the other is 20-30, I'd love to package them and Valentine or something to move back up towards the 10th pick. One of Doncic, Ayton, Bagley, Young, Bamba, or Porter, PLUS one of Jackson, Mikal or Miles Bridges, Knox, or Sexton, would be amazing.

Dierkes just put out an article stating what I mentioned earlier. No negotiating arb between filing and hearings. This definitely shows why we're cautious right now. The good news is we may have agreements with all our guys by the 12th. Which conceivably could lead to a very lively next few days. It'd be funny if the Cubs Convention actually WAS going on for something big going down, like people always seem to expect

Wrong thread.

Our group is obviously cautious. I'm really thinking that we're part of the reason for the slow off season, at this point. Why? Arbitration and the LT. 1)I think most of our targets likely have us first as their preference. 2) Were got guys hitting arb that could easily be 4-5 mill different than what the MLBTR estimates say. Example- KB and Addy costing 10.5 and 3.5 instead of 8.9 and 2.3.....3) These figures mean a ton to us, due to the LT and shape how much we ACTUALLY can give anyone in FA. If we want to sign Darvish and trade for Yelich..... Heyward-23, Lester-25.8, Zobrist-14, Chatwood-12.7, Morrow-10.5, Cishek-6.5, Quintana-4.2, Rizzo-5.9, Strop-5.9, Smyly-5 Total-113.5(These numbers are rounded off to the nearest 10th) Arb Estimates KB-8.9, Hendricks-4.9, Wilson-4.3, Addy-2.3, Grimm-2.4, Seal Boy-1 Total-23.8 Total of 137.1 Figure on 10 pre arb guys making the roster at 600k apiece- 6 mill (now 143.1 total) Figure on the rest of your 40 man- 3 mill( now 146.1 total) Add in for insurances- 16 mill(again, an estimate) New total of 162.1 This leaves 36.9 mill to spend up against the LT. But, these estimates being off by a few mill alters things quite a bit..... Let's say Yu signs for 5/140. That's 28 obviously. Yelich is 7.1. Do you make those moves RIGHT NOW, prior to knowing your true arb numbers? It'd leave you 1.8 under the LT AND no room for in season moves. Having a firmer grasp on the true numbers allows you certainty of what you're truly committing to. Again, this is just a guess on Darvish. But, you see how the margins are tight as hell. We're obviously dead set on staying under the LT. We want to put the best possible team out there, that we can. I think we're a premier destination and players are willing to wait this situation out. Unless we trade for the SP, I really think we're holding the market up until after the arb stuff is done.

I honestly doubt Levine said this. I think if this were true he would have put it on his Twitter or something. I Wouldn’t be surprised if the guy who claims he heard this got confused with something Levine mentioned. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/01/02/cubs-2018-needs-additions-arrieta-darvish-cobb-yelich/ He brought up Cain a few days ago.

Real win against a team it'd have been nice to lose to. Dunn was terrific, Lauri was solid. On a side note, Nwaba is a damn solid basketball player.

I'm guessing we asked for Hand as well as one of the starters (because on of those starters alone for Javy doesn't seem like an asking price worth "balking" at). Dennis Lin, the Padres beat guy, made it sound we definitely wanted more than just the starter, and mentioned Hand too.