You'd have to read the game thread to understand. :wink: Funny thing is I posted this before he got out of the jam. Just because I knew he could do it! GO Marmol! well hope he does good! Does he really have only 2 pitches? a mid to upper 90's fastball and a 12-6 curve of some sort? i still think he need one more pitch to make a good starter?! well who am i? just another fan?!?! :D Actually most scouts in the minors dubbed that curve of his as more like a hard slider. I didn't see today's game and have never seen Carlos pitch, so I can't tell if it's a curve or not. He does have a changeup, which is a solid big league pitch, but it's not a plus pitch like his fastball and breaking pitch. well, if he really does have a change up then, i've really not seen it yet? all ive seen is a blazing fastball, and a sharp biting curve... thats been clocked around 81-84 ???? I just think he should be given a chance.... u never know he might turn out to be a surprise like Marshall did?