1. Not "eveyone" here believes that Dusty had anything to do with Wood and Prior's injury histories. 2. Of course it can't be "scientifically proven," but then again, hardcore empiricists like Hume and Bertrand Russell dismiss causation altogether. While it can't be proven that Dusty damaged the careers of his young pitchers, it is quite likely. 3. No one said they would have "injury free" careers. However, Dusty's overwork made injury more likely. "But everybody else is doing it" is not an argument that holds much weight. Many who study such things believe that pitches per appearance is much more important than total number of innings. Rany Jazayerli, for example, is in favor of starting pitchers pitching more innings over more starts but throwing fewer pitches per game. In short, it's not so much the innings that matter, it's the number of pitches per appearance. True. I was at the ballpark when he took a line drive off his elbow (and watched Aramis make a great play to catch the ball for an out). But you're not arguing that all of Prior's problems have been caused by freak injuries, are you? Again, if you're going to be a hardcore empiricist, then no one's going to be able to convince you that the there's a cause and effect relationship between anything. Feel free to be skeptical about pitch counts or pitcher abuse points; lots of smart people, including Bill James, for example, see them as almost useless. But it's pretty universally acknowledged that throwing too many pitches is dangerous and can lead to both short term and long term injuries. Leo Mazzone doesn't believe in pulling a pitcher based soley on pitch counts, for example, but he does believe in taking a pitcher out when he loses his mechanics. I and many others here have seen Dusty leave Prior (and more recently) Zambrano in the late innings of games even when they began departing from their normal throwing motions to get the ball over the plate.