We agree to disagree I guess. Having been an Indians fan my whole life, I know first hand how much a great offense can get carved up by great pitching in the playoffs (the '95 and '97 World Series comes to mind). In baseball, great pitching beats great hitting everytime plain and simple. One of the ways to make a good pitching staff great is to have great defense in the place that is needed the most, the middle. IMO, if you have Barrett, Cedeno, Izturis and Pierre up the middle with Lee at first base and his ability to pick out low throws, the Cubs would have a GREAT defense that would make their average to good pitching staff borderline spectacular. As far as the offense goes in the outfield. I am so sick of people whining about Murton's lack of power. I know you weren't, but I need to vent. This kid will hit you .300 with 10-15 homers a year with adequate defense. Let the kid play everyday for crying' out loud. Pierre is not as bad as the player you folks saw in April. The guy your seeing right now is the Juan Pierre that I remember. As far as Jones goes, he can't hit lefties, but the guy is still hitting .280 (or somewhere around there) with 20 jacks. Is he the long-term answer? No because of the whole lefty thing Having said that, I like him becuase he works hard and doesn't loaf like A-Ram.